Tangential and Radial components of acceleration and tension

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The problem involves a small object attached to a cord swinging in a vertical circle. The object has a mass of 0.500 kg and is at an angle of 20.0 degrees with a speed of 8.00 m/s. Participants are tasked with finding the tension in the string, as well as the tangential and radial components of acceleration, and considering how these values might change if the object were swinging down toward its lowest point.

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  • Participants discuss setting up equations of motion for the vertical and horizontal components, questioning the inclusion of centripetal force in their calculations. There is also exploration of the relationships between tension, radial acceleration, and tangential acceleration.

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Some participants express uncertainty about their calculations and whether they have approached the problem correctly. There is acknowledgment of the original poster's solution, but no consensus on the correctness of the reasoning presented.

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Participants note the absence of visual aids and the potential impact of the direction of motion on the calculated values, raising questions about assumptions made in the problem setup.

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Homework Statement


One end of a cord is fixed and a small 0.500 kg object is attached to the other end, where it swings in a section of a vertical circle of radius 2.00 m as shown. (I don't have access to a camera right now, apologies.) When the angle is 20.0 degrees, the speed of the object is 8.00 m/s. At this instant, find (a) the tension in the string, (b) the tangential and radial components of acceleration, and (c) the total acceleration. (d)Is the answer to this question changed if the object is swinging down toward its lowest point instead of swinging up? Explain.

Known data:
mass is 0.500 kg
Radius is 2.00
Angle is 20.0 degrees
Speed of object when it is 20.0 degrees to the right of the vertical is 8.00 m/s


Homework Equations


Radial acceleration = (V2)/radius)
mg = 4.9N
mgsinθ = 1.68 N
mgcosθ = 4.60 N



The Attempt at a Solution


I solved it earlier today, but now that I've taken a second look, I'm starting to think I didn't solve it correctly.

I set up the equations of motion for both the y and x components. (I've set up the coordinate system so the y-axis is along the cord)
ƩFy: T - mgcosθ - mar = 0 (originally, I did not include the centripetal force)
ƩFx: -mgsinθ= -ma (the force is acting on the object in the opposite direction)
A) Find tension in the cord
T = mgcosθ + mar

Ar is V2/R so, (8.00^2)/2.00 --> 32.0 m/s^2 ( seems excessive to me)
T = mgcosθ + mar --> 4.60N + 16.0N = 20.6N

B) Find tangential and radial components of acceleration

Already found Ar in part A. I think tangential acceleration is obtained from -mgsinθ = -ma, which when I cancel out the mass, is -gsinθ= -a which yields -3.35 m/s^2.

C) the total acceleration is √( (Atangential)2 + Ar2) ) which yields 32.2 m/s^2

D) The answers to the previous questions will not change if the object was swinging in the opposite direction, because the magnitudes of the tension, radial acceleration, and tangential acceleration would still be the same. In other words, they are independent of the direction of motion.

Thank you for taking the time to read this.
 
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Eohlas said:

Homework Statement


One end of a cord is fixed and a small 0.500 kg object is attached to the other end, where it swings in a section of a vertical circle of radius 2.00 m as shown. (I don't have access to a camera right now, apologies.) When the angle is 20.0 degrees, the speed of the object is 8.00 m/s. At this instant, find (a) the tension in the string, (b) the tangential and radial components of acceleration, and (c) the total acceleration. (d)Is the answer to this question changed if the object is swinging down toward its lowest point instead of swinging up? Explain.

Known data:
mass is 0.500 kg
Radius is 2.00
Angle is 20.0 degrees
Speed of object when it is 20.0 degrees to the right of the vertical is 8.00 m/s


Homework Equations


Radial acceleration = (V2)/radius)
mg = 4.9N
mgsinθ = 1.68 N
mgcosθ = 4.60 N



The Attempt at a Solution


I solved it earlier today, but now that I've taken a second look, I'm starting to think I didn't solve it correctly.

I set up the equations of motion for both the y and x components. (I've set up the coordinate system so the y-axis is along the cord)
ƩFy: T - mgcosθ - mar = 0 (originally, I did not include the centripetal force)
ƩFx: -mgsinθ= -ma (the force is acting on the object in the opposite direction)
A) Find tension in the cord
T = mgcosθ + mar

Ar is V2/R so, (8.00^2)/2.00 --> 32.0 m/s^2 ( seems excessive to me)
T = mgcosθ + mar --> 4.60N + 16.0N = 20.6N

B) Find tangential and radial components of acceleration

Already found Ar in part A. I think tangential acceleration is obtained from -mgsinθ = -ma, which when I cancel out the mass, is -gsinθ= -a which yields -3.35 m/s^2.

C) the total acceleration is √( (Atangential)2 + Ar2) ) which yields 32.2 m/s^2

D) The answers to the previous questions will not change if the object was swinging in the opposite direction, because the magnitudes of the tension, radial acceleration, and tangential acceleration would still be the same. In other words, they are independent of the direction of motion.

Thank you for taking the time to read this.

Welcome to PF, Eohlas!

Your solution is correct.

ehild
 
Thanks for the welcome, although I actually registered almost two years ago. Heh. And thanks for taking the time to check my solution. :)
 
Eohlas said:
Thanks for the welcome, although I actually registered almost two years ago. Heh. :)

I saw that this was your first post. Was it? You came out from hide-out just now. .:smile:
 

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