Tank and a hole in it whats the speed?

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The problem involves a gasoline tank with a hole at a specific depth, requiring the determination of the speed at which gasoline exits the hole. The scenario includes factors such as pressure differences and the density of the liquid.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the choice of reference height for pressure calculations and its impact on the outcome. There are considerations about atmospheric pressure variations at different elevations and how that might affect the exit speed of the gasoline.

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Some participants have provided guidance on selecting a reference level for height and clarified that the difference in height is what matters. There is acknowledgment of the original poster's confusion regarding the height values and pressure conditions.

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Participants note that the problem involves specific atmospheric pressures and the density of gasoline, which are critical to the calculations but may not be fully resolved in the discussion.

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tank and a hole in it what's the speed??

Homework Statement



A careless worker at a refinery accidentally punches a hole in a gasoline tank 47.4 m below the surface of the gasoline. The tank had been sealed under 3.07 atm of absolute pressure and the density of the liquid is 659 kg/m3.If the hole is 17.1 m above the ground and the pressure outside the tank is 1.00 atm, determine the speed at which the gasoline exits the hole.

Homework Equations



P1+ \rhogh+0.5*\rhoV2=P2+\rhogh+o.5*\rhoV2

The Attempt at a Solution


i tried to solve using the above question but i can't determine which number to use as height..pls. help
 

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It doesn't matter what you use for the height; just pick a reference level--that is, a point where you define h to be 0--and stick with it. The reference level can be the ground, the hole, or even the top of the gasoline. It doesn't matter as long as you remember that h is negative for heights below the reference level.
 


Something to ponder...would you expect the exit speed of the gas to be different if the tank were punctured on the Rocky Mountains at elevation 5000 feet as opposed to being punctured on the Hawaiian Islands at elevation 0?
 


yes wouldn't the different atmosphere pressure effect the speed that it come out in??
 


brunettegurl said:
yes wouldn't the different atmosphere pressure effect the speed that it come out in??
Yes, nice pondering. Also g would vary slightly. But what about the value of h to use? Do you agree with Ideasrules post?
Edit: I just noticed your equation does not include the use of subscripts for h1 and V1 on the left side of the = sign, and h2 and V2 on the right. I just want to be sure you are aware of that.
 
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my main problem is i don't know which value to use as my h1 and so on... i know i have to solve v2. i know my p1=3.07atm and p2=1atm...and if i just randomly choose a pt as h won't the answer change accordingly??
 


brunettegurl said:
my main problem is i don't know which value to use as my h1 and so on... i know i have to solve v2. i know my p1=3.07atm and p2=1atm...and if i just randomly choose a pt as h won't the answer change accordingly??

No, as ideasrule point out, it won't matter. It's (h1-h2) that counts, which always comes out to the same value of 47.4 no matter what level of reference you use.
 


thanx that was my main problem..i got the answer
 

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