Tardigrade is first multicellular organism to be quantum entangled

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The discussion centers around the recent experiment in which a tardigrade was quantum entangled with a superconducting qubit while in a hibernating state. Participants explore the implications of this event for understanding quantum entanglement in living organisms, the nature of the entanglement, and the conditions under which it occurred.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants highlight that the tardigrade was not actively engaged in biological processes during entanglement, as it was in a "frozen" state, raising questions about the nature of its entanglement.
  • Others argue that the role of the tardigrade in the experiment was similar to that of a non-living object, suggesting it merely affected the resonance of the oscillator involved in the experiment.
  • A participant questions the proof of the tardigrade's quantum entanglement while frozen, suggesting that its state could be described independently of the other components in the system.
  • There is a discussion about the implications of the experiment for understanding entanglement and superposition in living organisms, with some suggesting it could indicate a broader phenomenon.
  • One participant emphasizes the complexity of the mathematical explanation of entanglement and suggests that the full paper provides clarity on how entanglement was confirmed.
  • Another participant reflects on the broader philosophical implications of the experiment, questioning the fundamental nature of physical matter.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the significance of the experiment and the nature of the tardigrade's entanglement. There is no consensus on whether the tardigrade was genuinely entangled or merely acted as a passive component in the experiment.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the experiment's conditions, particularly the state of the tardigrade, are crucial for understanding the results. There are unresolved questions regarding the definitions and implications of quantum entanglement as applied to living organisms.

  • #31
It has been argued that there was no entanglement at all (see tweet #10).

Exactly what part of the tardigrade or property of the tardigrade was entangled with the qubit? The paper itself says "the charges inside the tardigrade are represented as effective harmonic oscillators that couple to the electric field of the qubit via the dipole mechanism".
 
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  • #32
mitchell porter said:
I expressed my skepticism of "proof of entanglement" by the authors of the article first in post # 5 (and also in #10).

However, I am open to being shown the error of my ways; which has not happened yet as far as I'm concerned.

But I am enjoying the conversation very much. Thank you. :biggrin:
 
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  • #33
I read more of the paper now. They took this organism and froze it until it's basically a crystal, and it's presumably numerous individual dipoles in this crystal (proteins? water molecules?) that get entangled with the qubits. Then afterwards they thawed the organism, and one time out of three, it came back to life. (The paper seems to be vague about how complete the revival was; there's a remark about how "mechanically remov[ing]" tardigrades from the filter paper is "irreversibly damag[ing]"; perhaps the revival consisted of the organism wiggling a bit while still stuck in its new webbing?)
 
  • #34
I have no clue, what the value of this experiment might be with regard to quantum theory and living beings. As has been stressed repeatedly the entanglement cannot be stable if the tardigrade is in its "living state", because then it is strongly coupled to the environment, which is not controllable in all details and any possible initial entanglement between it and the superconducting qbits will be very rapidly gone through decoherence. What they did after all is to entangle a piece of matter cooled down to temperatures in the mK range, which can of course be entangled for some time with the qbit.

It's of course amazing that there are liveforms which can "survive" such low temperatures in some "inactive state" and then come to "active live" again, but what has all this to do with the fact that one can entangle macroscopic systems. This is nothing new, and it's even possible at room temperature (for vibrational states of two diamonds this has been achieved some years ago). PhysicsWorld has another example called the "breakthrough achievement of the year":

https://physicsworld.com/a/quantum-...-physics-world-2021-breakthrough-of-the-year/

https://arxiv.org/abs/2009.12902
 
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  • #35
PeterDonis said:
No, it doesn't. Superposition is basis dependent. Entanglement is not. I can always find a basis of the joint Hilbert space of the system in which the entangled state is a basis state, not a superposition. But the state will still be entangled.
Entanglement is referring to "subsystems" of a whole system. The most simple example are two qbits, e.g., realized by the spins of two spin-1/2 particles (or polarization states of two photons). The Hilbert space of the whole system ("two spins") is described by the product of the two "single-spin" Hilbert spaces
$$\mathcal{H}=\mathcal{H}_1 \otimes \mathcal{H}_2.$$
Now the total system is by definition in an entangled pure state ##\hat{\rho}=|\Psi \rangle \langle \Psi|## if the corresponding reduced states of the single systems
$$\hat{\rho}_1 = \mathrm{Tr}_2 \hat{\rho}, \quad \hat{\rho}_2 = \mathrm{Tr}_1 \hat{\rho}$$
are not pure states. This is a completely basis-independent definition of entanglement.

It is clear that product states are not entangled. Indeed, if
$$|\Psi \rangle=|\psi_1 \rangle \otimes |\psi_2 \rangle$$
Then
$$\hat{\rho}_1 = |\psi_1 \rangle \langle \psi_1|, \quad \hat{\rho}_2=|\psi_2 \rangle \langle |\psi_2 \rangle,$$
i.e., in this case the two subsystems are both prepared in a pure state.

However, if you have a state like the singlet (total spin 0),
$$|\Psi \rangle=\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} (|\hbar/2 \rangle \otimes |-\hbar/2 \rangle - |-\hbar/2 \rangle \otimes |\hbar/2 \rangle),$$
then it's easy to show that
$$\hat{\rho}_1=\frac{1}{2} \hat{1}_1, \quad \hat{\rho}_2=\frac{1}{2} \hat{1}_2.$$
So in this case the spins of the two subsystems are no pure state but even "maximum-entropy states", i.e., the single spins are completely indetermined although the whole system is in a pure state with total spin 0. So the two spins are in an entangled state, and because it's even leading to the minimal possible knowledge about each of the subsystems, it's called a "maximally entangled state" or a "Bell state".

So a priori entanglement has nothing to do with superposition (which is always basis dependent) but with being described by a product state or not.

You can of course also use another basis of the whole system. In our case we can use the four Bell states defined by
$$|\Psi^{(\pm)} \rangle = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} (|\hbar/2 \rangle \otimes |-\hbar/2 \rangle \pm |-\hbar/2 \rangle \otimes |\hbar/2 \rangle),$$
$$|\Phi^{(\pm)} \rangle = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} (|\hbar/2 \rangle \otimes |\hbar/2 \rangle \pm |-\hbar/2 \rangle \otimes |-\hbar/2 \rangle).$$
In this basis our singlet-Bell state is not a superposition of these basis states but simply ##|\Psi^{(-)} \rangle##.
 
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  • #36
vanhees71 said:
Entanglement is referring to "subsystems" of a whole system.
It means no subsystem has a definite state on its own, only the whole system.
 
  • #37
The subsystems of course have a definite state. Given the state ##\hat{\rho}## of the whole system, it's described by the reduced statistical operator obtained from the statistical operator describing the whole system by tracing over all other subsystems. For my spin example it's
$$\hat{\rho}_1= \sum_{\sigma_{13},\sigma_{13}',\sigma_{23}} |\sigma_{13} \rangle \langle \sigma_{13},\sigma_{23}|\hat{\rho} | \sigma_{13}',\sigma_{23} \rangle \langle \sigma_{13}'|$$
and analogously for ##\hat{\rho}_2##. The sums are over the complete sets of orthornormal states (all ##\sigma_{3}##'s running over ##\pm \hbar/2##). I also used the more compact notation
$$|\sigma_{13},\sigma_{23} \rangle=|\sigma_{13} \rangle \otimes |\sigma_{23} \rangle.$$
If the whole system is in a pure state ##\hat{\rho} = |\Psi \rangle \langle \Psi|##, the two subsystems are entangled if the subsystems are not in pure states, i.e., if the reduced density operators ##\hat{\rho}_1## and ##\hat{\rho}_2## are not projection operators.
 
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  • #39
https://phys.org/news/2021-12-peers-dispute-tardigrades-entangled-qubits.html

Scientists and journalists alike are disputing claims made by an international team of researchers that they had entangled a tardigrade with superconducting qubits. Their paper is published on the arXiv preprint server. Virtually all of those with an opinion pointed out that the work by the researchers in this new effort did not involve entanglement.
 
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  • #41
True fact: A friend of mine once announced, after wandering around the internet in search of a better answer, that "My spirit animal is a tardigrade".
 
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  • #42
My new profile pic. (Photograph by Eye of Science / Science Source).
tardigrade.jpg
 
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  • #43
StevieTNZ said:
So is the true takeaway that this is more an experimental/modeling stunt than ground-breaking science? I cannot truly follow the math so it’s probably my deficiency speaking but I’m seeing nothing truly impressive. Seems more like “We modeled a tun-state water bear as a qubit and voila, it behaved like a qubit!” Is this a gross oversimplification?
 

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