Teacher recommendation from a teacher I don't like

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the dilemma of whether to request a letter of recommendation from a physics teacher whom the student dislikes and who does not know the student personally. The context includes considerations of college admissions, the importance of recommendations for merit scholarships, and the student's desire to major in physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • The student expresses concern about asking for a recommendation from a teacher they dislike, noting that the teacher does not know them beyond their academic performance.
  • Some participants suggest that good grades in physics may justify asking for a recommendation, but caution that any perceived dislike could negatively impact the letter.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of having a recommendation from a physics teacher for a physics major, as it may raise fewer questions during college applications.
  • Another participant points out that while SAT scores are critical for college admissions, recommendations are particularly important for merit scholarships.
  • There is a suggestion that if the merit scholarship is not directly tied to the physics department, the student could choose any teachers for recommendations, emphasizing the value of strong relationships with those teachers.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether the student's dislike for the teacher should influence their decision to request a recommendation. Some argue for the necessity of a physics recommendation, while others advocate for choosing teachers with whom the student has a better rapport.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reflects uncertainties regarding the impact of teacher relationships on recommendation letters and the specific requirements for merit scholarships versus general college admissions.

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I've posted here before about how I dislike my physics teacher for various reasons. He ignores kids' questions, and he mostly talks about sports, or makes pop culture references and jokes just to get laughs from the class. No one thinks he is a good teacher, and he focuses more on his football coaching than physics teaching.

Also, another problem is I don't have any friends in this class, so I tend to not talk that much. I occasionally answer or ask questions when the teacher does lecture.

So, I don't really like him, and although I get good grades and act polite in class, he doesn't know me personally. So the question is, should I ask for a recommendation from someone I don't personally like, and someone that doesn't even know me other than the shy kid that gets good grades in class?

The thing is, I already have 2 letters of rec in mind from two different teachers, and I would assume the third should be from my favorite subject, physics. I want to major in physics, too. But, would it be alright to get letters of rec from an English teacher, Math teacher, and Chemistry teacher?
 
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Well if you're getting good grades in Physics and haven't done anything for him to dislike you then I don't see why you wouldn't want to get a recommendation from him. However if he senses that you don't like him or he doesn't like you then it wouldn't be such a great idea.

Clearly having a recommendation from your Physics teacher and wanting to major in Physics will cause less questions to be asked when you apply to college..

The biggest indicator for college will be your SAT scores followed by your essay and anything you've done out of the ordinary related to your interest in Physics that gives some indication of your skills and abilities and finally these would be bolstered by your teacher recommendations.

College admissions get so many applications that they go through a weeding out process using some sort of criteria with SAT scores as the first indicator. Soce too low and they take your money and skip to the next applicant. You want to make it as tough as possible for them not to skip your application. Have you visitied the college, had any interviews with profs?...
 
Well if the SAT is the first step, then I won't pass. I can get into college with my SAT score, but this is for merit scholarships. I guess I should have clarified.

So yeah, my SAT is a little bit above average, so good enough to get into the college. The college doesn't require or recommend having LORs for basic admission, but for scholarships, i need them.
 
if you don't like them they may not like you, and it could be reflected in the letter.
 
Unless the merit scholarship is in some way connected to your potential major or to the university's physics department, I assume you could have whichever teachers you like write your recommendations. Teachers with whom you have good relationships--who like you and know you well--would presumably write the strongest recommendations.
 

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