TED Video: Daniel Kraft: Medicine's future?

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The discussion revolves around a TED talk by Daniel Kraft on the future of medicine, focusing on themes such as technological advancements, personalized medicine, and the implications of computing power in healthcare. Participants explore both the potential benefits and limitations of these developments.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express skepticism about the emphasis on exponential technological development, particularly in relation to nanobots and the claims made by figures like Ray Kurzweil.
  • Others agree that while the notion of exponential growth may be overstated, an increase in computing power is necessary to process the vast amounts of data from high-resolution diagnostic scans.
  • There is a concern that the comparison between computers and the human mind is flawed, as participants argue that computers should be compared to brains rather than being seen as surpassing them.
  • Some participants highlight the potential of ubiquitous computing and digital personalized medicine to significantly impact healthcare positively.
  • Interest is expressed in regenerative medicine over biomaterials and prosthetics, with a belief that biological systems may outperform machines in efficiency and adaptability.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally express multiple competing views regarding the implications of technological advancements in medicine, with no consensus on the validity of Kraft's claims or the future trajectory of these technologies.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations in the current understanding of how to compare computational and biological systems, as well as the potential overreliance on exponential growth narratives in technological discussions.

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rhody said:
Interesting http://www.ted.com/talks/daniel_kra..._campaign=newsletter_weekly&utm_medium=email" by Daniel Kraft, worth your time, IMHO.

Rhody... :approve:

Hmmm I really don't like the emphasis on exponential technological development. When someone starts arguments along the line of Ray Kurzweil, especially when they start talking about nanobots (nanomedicine in real life is nothing like nanobots which are considered a bit of a joke) I get suspicious.

However I do agree that the emergence of digital, personalised medicine is something that will be a great boon. The internet of things would have a huge effect on medicine.
 
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ryan_m_b said:
Hmmm I really don't like the emphasis on exponential technological development.

ryan,

IMHO I think those words that he used were the "salesman" in Daniel talking. It seems to me that he was trying to create, "a buzz" at the start of his talk. In this regard I think he succeeded. That being said, I think you will agree that we do need an "exponential" increase in computing power to begin to make sense of the massive amounts of data generated from a single high resolution diagnostic scan in the future, no ?

Rhody...
 
rhody said:
ryan,

IMHO I think those words that he used were the "salesman" in Daniel talking. It seems to me that he was trying to create, "a buzz" at the start of his talk. In this regard I think he succeeded. That being said, I think you will agree that we do need an "exponential" increase in computing power to begin to make sense of the massive amounts of data generated from a single high resolution diagnostic scan in the future, no ?

Rhody...

Certainly we have seen exponential growth in computer power and yes this has greatly helped medicine and will continue to do so. Eventually Moore's law will dwindle as we reach the limits of silicon lithography (not necessarily a bad thing IMO, it will make developers focus on better software rather than relying on more power) and computer development will be much more gradual. I object to his claim that computers are nearing or surpassing the human mind, for a start that doesn't make sense (if anything computers should be compared to a brain) and secondly we have no way of fairly comparing a computer and a brain. The fact that he works with/for the singularity institute means he will try and peddle these ideas of exponential development in all sectors, this is a fallacy.

I completely agree with you though that this was a good way to drum up the audience and was probably a salesman style tactic. Ubiquitous computing will have a massive effect on medicine and hopefully for the better, interfacing everyday objects such as our clothes, medical diagnostics and phones could greatly help us live our lives.

Personally I'm more excited about regenerative medicines than biomaterials and prosthetics, there is no machine that can rival biology for efficiency and adaptive power. This especially applies to nanobots which are mostly science fiction. But that's not to say that advances in B and P are also inspiring and would be a massive boon to treatments, hopefully they will be surpassed by regenerative medicines as soon as possible.
 
We have some way of comparing a brain to a computer. Computers are much faster serial processors. Brains are much better at integrating parallel information.
 

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