Tehran blast kills nuclear physics scientist

[EternityMech]

An Iranian nuclear physics scientist has been killed in a remote-controlled bomb attack in the Iranian capital, Tehran.

Dr. Massoud Ali-Mohammadi, a lecturer at the Tehran University and a staunch supporter of the Islamic Revolution, was killed in booby-trapped motorbike blast on Tuesday.

The explosion took place near the professor's home in Qeytariyeh neighborhood, in northern Tehran.

Iran's police and security bodies are investigating the terrorist case to identify those behind it.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=115963&sectionid=351020101

New low for the mossad and cia.

 

[mheslep]

An Iranian nuclear physics scientist has been killed in a remote-controlled bomb attack in the Iranian capital, Tehran.

Dr. Massoud Ali-Mohammadi, a lecturer at the Tehran University and a staunch supporter of the Islamic Revolution, was killed in booby-trapped motorbike blast on Tuesday.

The explosion took place near the professor's home in Qeytariyeh neighborhood, in northern Tehran.

Iran's police and security bodies are investigating the terrorist case to identify those behind it.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=115963&sectionid=351020101

New low for the mossad and cia.

You believe the Mossad and the CIA were involved because spokesman Ramin Mehman-Parast says so, or do you have other information? Iranian "spokesmen" also say foreign powers are behind the protest movements.

 

[Supercritical]

Seems consistent with the "do to others as they would do unto you" maxim.

People need to remember that the Iranian government is not one that is opposed to imperialism. Rather, Iranian officials have made it clear that they want more than anything to claim imperial power status as their own.

Many people initially jumped to the defense of the Iranian regime when Bush was saber rattling, on the principle that Iran was a bastion in the noble fight against American imperialism, and Ahmadinejad made the token visits to places like Venezuela to show "solidarity" with his fellow would-be "resistance fighters." After all, anti-imperialism is a great platform for world domination, just like anti-materialism is great at selling albums and merchandise.

Now folks are starting to back away from this as Tehran's true colors come into focus.

 

[EternityMech]

Seems consistent with the "do to others as they would do unto you" maxim.

People need to remember that the Iranian government is not one that is opposed to imperialism. Rather, Iranian officials have made it clear that they want more than anything to claim imperial power status as their own.

Many people initially jumped to the defense of the Iranian regime when Bush was saber rattling, on the principle that Iran was a bastion in the noble fight against American imperialism, and Ahmadinejad made the token visits to places like Venezuela to show "solidarity" with his fellow would-be "resistance fighters." After all, anti-imperialism is a great platform for world domination, just like anti-materialism is great at selling albums and merchandise.

Now folks are starting to back away from this as Tehran's true colors come into focus.

are you actually supporting terrorism? Whether or not Iran wants to dominate the region or not is besides the point as American imperialism can be seen across all continents.

 

[mgb_phys]

You believe the Mossad and the CIA

Isrealies - a bit subtle, wouldn't they have just sent an airstrike
CIA - no, since he actually died.
Other US agencies - unlikely since a) they got the right guy and b) nobody left a FBI logo sweatshirt behind at the scene
Brits - no, the details of the plan haven't been left on a train somewhere.

 

[D H]

Nice try. How about a less biased source?

Huffington Post, http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/12/iran-nuclear-physicist-ma_n_419676.html

A nuclear physics professor who publicly backed Iranian opposition leader Mir Hossein Mousavi in the disputed June presidential election was killed Tuesday when a bomb-rigged motorcycle blew up outside his home.

The blast, apparently set off by a remote trigger, left a puzzling mix of clues about why a 50-year-old researcher with no prominent political voice, no published work with military relevance and no declared links to Iran's nuclear program would be targeted.​

THe Australian, http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/nuclear-scientist-ali-mohammadi-assassinated-in-tehran/story-e6frg6so-1225818621514

IRANIAN nuclear scientist and opposition supporter Massoud Ali Mohammadi was killed yesterday in a rare bomb attack in Tehran that the regime quickly blamed on the US and Israel.​

Yes, the Iranian government was quick to blame the CIA and Mossad. Perhaps that was to deflect blame from the true culprits -- the Iranian government.

 

[EternityMech]

You do realize that when it comes to Irans foreign and nuclear politics there's no difference between the opposition and Ahmadinejad.

 

[mgb_phys]

When it comes to US foreign and nuclear policies there is no difference between Bush and Obama - doesn't mean they are best buddies.

 

[mheslep]

You do realize that when it comes to Irans foreign and nuclear politics there's no difference between the opposition and Ahmadinejad.

That's nonsense, there are many differences on foreign policy. In particular, Mousavi publicly favors negotiations with the US.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,622225,00.html

SPIEGEL: You don't mention foreign policy. Are you, like President Ahmadinejad, hesitant to take US President Barack Obama up on his offer of direct talks?

Mousavi: The language Mr. Obama uses is refreshingly different from that of his predecessor, George W. Bush. But actions must now follow. We will pay careful attention to what happens next. If his actions are in keeping with his words, why shouldn't we negotiate?

Mousavi has also condemned Ahmadinejad's Holocaust denials and the like.

 

[EternityMech]

US has said that negotiations with Iran will only occur after they give up their nuclear enrichment program neither Ahmadinajad or Mousavi or any Iranian will accept that.

 

[mheslep]

US has said that negotiations with Iran will only occur after they give up their nuclear enrichment program neither Ahmadinajad or Mousavi or any Iranian will accept that.

Second half is true, not the first. The US has offered and continues to offer talks with Iran. The West's stated position though is demanding an end to enrichment, with sanctions under way insisting on it. Yes Ahmadinajad and Mousavi both have stated policies saying they will enrich. If Mousavi took over and, agreed to, let's say, a 'pause' in enrichment for a ~year and then allowed the IAEA inspectors free rein, Iran might be able to enrich again under the terms of the NPT.

 

[EternityMech]

Second half is true, not the first. The US has offered and continues to offer talks with Iran. The West's stated position though is demanding an end to enrichment, with sanctions under way insisting on it. Yes Ahmadinajad and Mousavi both have stated policies saying they will enrich. If Mousavi took over and, agreed to, let's say, a 'pause' in enrichment for a ~year and then allowed the IAEA inspectors free rein, Iran might be able to enrich again under the terms of the NPT.

a year off serves what purpose? look the reality is that its not the nuclear program usa is worried about its Irans growing influence and might so they are using the nuclear program as an excuse.

 

[Altabeh]

Nice try. How about a less biased source?

Huffington Post, http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/12/iran-nuclear-physicist-ma_n_419676.html

A nuclear physics professor who publicly backed Iranian opposition leader Mir Hossein Mousavi in the disputed June presidential election was killed Tuesday when a bomb-rigged motorcycle blew up outside his home.

The blast, apparently set off by a remote trigger, left a puzzling mix of clues about why a 50-year-old researcher with no prominent political voice, no published work with military relevance and no declared links to Iran's nuclear program would be targeted.​

THe Australian, http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/nuclear-scientist-ali-mohammadi-assassinated-in-tehran/story-e6frg6so-1225818621514

IRANIAN nuclear scientist and opposition supporter Massoud Ali Mohammadi was killed yesterday in a rare bomb attack in Tehran that the regime quickly blamed on the US and Israel.​

Yes, the Iranian government was quick to blame the CIA and Mossad. Perhaps that was to deflect blame from the true culprits -- the Iranian government.

As an Iranian, I'm really sorry for living in a country whose government attacks and terrorizes its scientists and ordinary people just because they have a different voice than the one it seeks out. Everyone in Iran who supports opposition and "green movement" knows who is behind these vile murders that are not rare as you can see many other examples occurred in Iran in recent years. The US and Israel have nothing to do with such terroristic incidents. My prayers go out to all of Prof. Alimohammadi's beloved ones and his family. Period.

 

[mheslep]

a year off serves what purpose?

May solve the impasse. NPT signers have a right to enrich if they abide by the NPT. Iran failed to do so, now the UN has imposed sanctions insisting enrichment stop. Under a new regime, those sanctions might go quickly away but the enrichment is going to have to stop, at least for awhile. There's no way out of this.

look the reality is that its not the nuclear program usa is worried about its Irans growing influence and might so they are using the nuclear program as an excuse.

The US and the rest of the UNSC isn't worried about a nuclear program? And what new Iranian influence? On whom?

 

[Count Iblis]

May solve the impasse. NPT signers have a right to enrich if they abide by the NPT. Iran failed to do so, now the UN has imposed sanctions insisting enrichment stop. Under a new regime, those sanctions might go quickly away but the enrichment is going to have to stop, at least for awhile. There's no way out of this.

The US and the rest of the UNSC isn't worried about a nuclear program? And what new Iranian influence? On whom?

I think it is the other way around. Iran was found to be in violation of the NPT and later referred to the UNSC because it was intent on enriching its own fuel which raised fears of an Iranian nuclear weapon. The actual violations of the NPT by Iran were minor and most other countries would not have been found in breach of the NPT for those reasons.

 

[Count Iblis]

It is similar to how Saddam's WMD were becoming more and more dangerous as the window for military intervention in Iraq in early 2003 was shrinking. Saddam was found to be in breach of UNSC 1441 by the US and Britain because that would justify military intervention at the last moment.

Iran fully understands this logic which is why they will not comply with the UNSC. Also, there is no military option as Iran is capable of retalliation on an unimaginable scale. General Zinni pointed that out on CNN a few months ago. The inconvenient fact for the US and Israel is that the World's largest oil and gas installations are just across the Hormuz Straight in Saudi Arabia and Qatar, well within the reach of Iran's short range artillery missiles.

 

[mheslep]

I think it is the other way around. Iran was found to be in violation of the NPT

Yes

and later referred to the UNSC

yes

because it was intent on enriching its own fuel

yes

which raised fears of an Iranian nuclear weapon.

Yes

The actual violations of the NPT by Iran were minor and most other countries would not have been found in breach of the NPT for those reasons.

Implying the IAEA and ElBaradei had a special bias against Iran?

 

[Count Iblis]

Think of a prosecutor in the US. A prosecutor in the US legal system has a lot of power. In case of an incident involving some violence he can decide to throw the book at a defandant charging him with attempted murder or to file only lesser charges leading to a maximum sentence of just a few years in prison for exactly the same incident. This is one of the reasons of the racial bias in the US legal system.

 

[mheslep]

Think of a prosecutor in the US. A prosecutor in the US legal system has a lot of power. In case of an incident involving some violence he can decide to throw the book at a defandant charging him with attempted murder or to file only lesser charges leading to a maximum sentence of just a few years in prison for exactly the same incident. This is one of the reasons of the racial bias in the US legal system.

One can think of many prejudicial things, that doesn't mean they have any application to the issue at hand unless you show how the IAEA's case was unwarranted or premature.

 

[MotoH]

Iran can't have nuclear weapons because they are as unstable as a building built in Dubai (which is on sand btw. . .) Would you entrust a pistol to the person who has a history of being a complete c**t and being very aggressive? No you wouldn't. Please see Yemen thread for solution to Iran problem.

 

[mgb_phys]

Iran can't have nuclear weapons because they are as unstable as a building built in Dubai

Unlike that beacon of liberal democracy next door in Pakistan.

Would you entrust a pistol to the person who has a history of being a complete c**t and being very aggressive?

Yes if he's your c**t - if the Iran-Iraq war went badly we wouldn't have had any problem with Saddam having nukes.

 

[MotoH]

Yes if he's your c**t - if the Iran-Iraq war went badly we wouldn't have had any problem with Saddam having nukes.

By having Iraq occupy all of Iran? I can agree with that point, because the allies had Saddam in their pocket and he would have been much easier to control.

 

[EternityMech]

its funny how people are accusing ahmadinejad for this bombing but how do you explain 3 scientist being killed and kidnapped in the span of a few years? Did ahmadinejad kill them as well. There's a lack of logic here.

seriously the amount of bias against Iran from the likes of CNN and Times its no wonder people have such a skewed view on Iran.

 

[MotoH]

its funny how people are accusing ahmadinejad for this bombing but how do you explain 3 scientist being killed and kidnapped in the span of a few years? Did ahmadinejad kill them as well. There's a lack of logic here.

seriously the amount of bias against Iran from the likes of CNN and Times its no wonder people have such a skewed view on Iran.

Then who did it? Let me guess, the United States or Israel?

 

[WhoWee]

its funny how people are accusing ahmadinejad for this bombing but how do you explain 3 scientist being killed and kidnapped in the span of a few years? Did ahmadinejad kill them as well. There's a lack of logic here.

seriously the amount of bias against Iran from the likes of CNN and Times its no wonder people have such a skewed view on Iran.

Blame it on Hollywood - Persian Empire is always the bad guy.

 

[MotoH]

Blame it on Hollywood - Persian Empire is always the bad guy.

The "Persian Empire" is always the bad guy. . . Precisely because they have always been the bad guy.

 

[russ_watters]

Blame it on Hollywood - Persian Empire is always the bad guy.

I don't know how long it's been going on, but for at least a decade, the PC police have swung the pendulum the other way. The silliest example is The Sum of All Fears, which took a very high quality/plausible Tom Clancy story where Islamic terrorists get ahold of an Israeli nuclear bomb and replaced them with Nazis. It was real head-scratcher of a story.

The PC police have gotten to Google: type "christianity is" into a google search and see what the autocomplete gives you...then try the same with "islam is".

And then there's the Fort Hood shooting and the instructions the media and the President gave us to not look at the islamic fanaticism motive (still waiting for you to tell us about the report you got last month, Barry...).

It's a very odd phenomena where today we are being conditioned to ignore this reality.

Anyway, that's drifting a little...

Iran demonstrated just a few months ago that it is still trying to hide the scope of its nuclear program from the international community, when another reprocessing facility was found. Apologists for Iran say that circumstantial evidence doesn't prove they are trying to build nukes, but no such burden of proof exists for the world community. In order for Iran to be allowed to proceed with development of nuclear power, they are required by the NPT to be transparent. The argument about whether the world community can prove Iran is trying to build a nuclear bomb is irrelevant. It's a misdirection tactic.

 

[OmCheeto]

As an Iranian, I'm really sorry for living in a country whose government attacks and terrorizes its scientists and ordinary people just because they have a different voice than the one it seeks out. Everyone in Iran who supports opposition and "green movement" knows who is behind these vile murders that are not rare as you can see many other examples occurred in Iran in recent years. The US and Israel have nothing to do with such terroristic incidents. My prayers go out to all of Prof. Alimohammadi's beloved ones and his family. Period.

Show macha tory. (= que pasa. as I've been told)

Good to have a voice from the inside. Keep us informed. We are with you in spirit.

I will come visit in the future.

 

[Evo]

A good place to end the thread.