Temperature's affect on frequency

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The problem involves understanding how temperature affects the frequency of sound produced by a flute, specifically when a musician tunes the instrument indoors at 26 °C and then plays outside at 4 °C. The context is rooted in the physics of sound waves and their properties, particularly how temperature influences sound speed and frequency.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between sound speed, frequency, and wavelength, noting that wavelength remains constant while speed changes with temperature. There are attempts to calculate the speeds of sound at different temperatures and to relate these to frequency changes.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on using ratios of sound speeds and frequencies to find percentage changes. However, there are ongoing questions about how to determine wavelength and the implications of frequency being the same in certain calculations. The discussion reflects a mix of understanding and confusion regarding the underlying concepts.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about selecting a wavelength and how to apply the equations correctly, indicating a need for clarification on the assumptions made regarding the properties of sound in relation to temperature changes.

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Homework Statement



A marching band member tunes her flute indoors in a 26 oC room. She then goes outside to play on a chilly 4 oC day in January. What percent change does this cause in the frequency played by her flute?)

Homework Equations



v = f(Lambda)

The Attempt at a Solution



I know the wavelength will not change with temperature. The speed of the sound does so I need to use an equation that uses wavelength, freq, and wave speed.

I'm struggling with this. I calculated the speeds at 347.6 for 26 degrees C, and 337.4 for 4 degrees C. I chose the frequency at random as a 'C' she was tuning the flute to, the freq of this is 16.35. That's as far as I've gotten.
 
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I'm new to this forum so if this is posted in the wrong place or I've formatted it incorrectly, I apologize and if you could put it in the right direction that was would great!

Thanks for any help.
 
You have done it correctly.

As you have said, the wavelength remains constant. So
v2 = f2*λ
v1 = f1*λ
take the ratio
v2/v1 = f2/f1
1 - v2/v1 = 1 - f2/f1
Now find the percenatge change in the frequency.
 
rl.bhat said:
You have done it correctly.

As you have said, the wavelength remains constant. So
v2 = f2*λ
v1 = f1*λ
take the ratio
v2/v1 = f2/f1
1 - v2/v1 = 1 - f2/f1
Now find the percenatge change in the frequency.

But how do I find V2=F2*λ if I don't know λ? Should I just select a wavelength at random? Like 1 meter?

And how does V2/V1 = F2/F1 if the frequencies are the same?

Strugging to understand how I can find the percentage change in the frequency.

Thanks so much for helping me so far. I've been out of school for 8 years and am so very confused.
 
mhmil said:
But how do I find V2=F2*λ if I don't know λ? Should I just select a wavelength at random? Like 1 meter?

And how does V2/V1 = F2/F1 if the frequencies are the same?

Strugging to understand how I can find the percentage change in the frequency.

Thanks so much for helping me so far. I've been out of school for 8 years and am so very confused.
When the temperature changes, the length of the flute does not change. So the wave length does not change, because it depends on the length of the flute. So the frequency changes.
 
rl.bhat said:
When the temperature changes, the length of the flute does not change. So the wave length does not change, because it depends on the length of the flute. So the frequency changes.

Okay, still not understanding it I guess. How do I find the change in frequency? I have so far that

347.6/16.35 = 21.260 = λ1
337.4/16.35 = 20.640 = λ2

So the equation V=fλ comes out to

347.6=16.35*21.260
337.4=16.35*20.640

These work out obviously. I just don't understand how to find the change in frequency or how temperature effects it.
 
337.4/347.6 = f2/f1
1- 337.4/347.6 = 1 - f2/f1
(10.2/347.6)*100 = ( 1 - f2/f1)*100
Find the percent change in the frequency.
 

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