Tension and Hinge Force Problem

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a uniform beam supported by a cable, with wooden blocks suspended at specific points. The task is to determine the tension in the cable and the hinge force at the base of the beam, given certain angles and weights.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster expresses uncertainty about how to start the problem, particularly regarding the use of the given angles and the order of finding the hinge forces versus the cable tension. Some participants suggest drawing force vectors and writing equations of equilibrium for the beam, while others question the clarity of the variables used in the equations.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively discussing the setup of the problem, with some providing suggestions for drawing force vectors and establishing equilibrium equations. There is a recognition of the need to clarify the meanings of variables used in the equations, indicating a productive exploration of the problem's components.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of the blocks being positioned at fractions along the beam, which may influence how the forces are calculated. Additionally, the discussion highlights the ambiguity surrounding the definitions of certain terms and variables in the equations presented.

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Homework Statement



The 135-N uniform beam from which 14-N wooden blocks are suspended is pinned to the ground. The beam is then supported by a cable (attached at the center of the beam) to allow the blocks to hang freely.

If the blocks are attached two-fifths and three-fifths of the way up the beam, θc=12° and θb=20°, what tension must the cable supply?
What is the hinge force at the bottom of the beam?

The image can be seen here: http://i.imgur.com/tVm7RMS.jpg


Homework Equations



τ = rmgsinθ
Fx = 0
Fy = 0


The Attempt at a Solution



I'm not even sure where to begin tackling this problem. The two angles given are throwing me off, so I can't decide when or how to use either and if I should find the hinge forces first or the wire tension. Any help to point me in the right direction would be greatly appreciated!
 
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Draw all force vectors. Find their horizontal and vertical components and write up the equations of equilibrium for the beam. Two for the x and y components of the forces and one for the torque. ehild
 
ehild said:
Draw all force vectors. Find their horizontal and vertical components and write up the equations of equilibrium for the beam. Two for the x and y components of the forces and one for the torque. ehild
Does this seem correct? It's the closest thing I could think of. Also, would I substitute 1 for L, since the blocks are given as fractions along the beam?
Fx: Tension*cos12 - HingeForce*cos20 = 0
Fy: Tension*sin12 + HingeForce*sin20 - 135 N - 14 N = 0
τorque = (-gravity*.5Length*cos20) + (-gravity*(2/5+3/5)Length*cos20) + (Tension*.5Length*cos12) + (HingeForce*cos20)
 
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But nobody knows what are the meanings of the letters.

ehild
 
ehild said:
But nobody knows what are the meanings of the letters.

ehild
Oops... :p

Just corrected it.
 
A hinge can exert force to any direction, not only in the direction parallel to the beam.
What do you mean on "gravity" in the equation for the torque?
If you wrote the torque with respect to the hinge, what is the torque of the hinge force?

ehild
 

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