Terminal velocity of a falling conducting ring

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The discussion focuses on determining the terminal velocity of a conducting ring with radius a and mass m, dropped in a magnetic field described by the equation \(\vec{B} = \frac{B_0}{L}\left(-\frac{\rho}{2} \hat{\rho} + z \hat{z} \right)\). The resistance of the ring is given as R, and the induced electric field is derived from Maxwell's equations. The participants explore the relationship between the induced electric field and the forces acting on the ring, ultimately seeking a method to express the terminal velocity in terms of these forces.

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Homework Statement



A conducting ring with radius a and mass m is placed in a magnetic field at a height H above the origin of the reference frame. The plane of the ring is parallel to the ground, that is, the normal is directed along the z-axis. The electrical resistance per unit length of the ring is R/(2Pia), so that the resistance of the loop is R. The magnetic field has spatial dependence:

[tex]\vec{B} = \frac{B_0}{L}\left(-\frac{\rho}{2} \hat{\rho} + z \hat{z} \right)[/tex]

where [tex]\hat{\rho}, \hat{z}[/tex] are unit vectors in the usual cylindrical coordinate system.

At a certain time, the ring is dropped and falls due to gravity. The plane of the ring remains horizontal as the ring falls. Find the terminal velocity of the ring.

Homework Equations



We've got Maxwell's equations, F=ma, Lorentz force F=qv X B, etc.

The Attempt at a Solution



Here's my attempt so far:

[tex]\nabla \times \vec{E} = -\frac{\partial \vec{B}}{\partial t} \Rightarrow \oint{\vec{E} \cdot d\vec{l}} = -\frac{d}{dt} \int{\vec{B} \cdot \hat{n} \hspace{1mm} da} \Rightarrow E(2 \pi a) = -\frac{d}{dt} \int{B_z \hspace{1mm}da} \Rightarrow E(2 \pi a) = -\frac{d}{dt} \int_0^{2\pi}{d\phi}\int_0^a{B_z \rho\hspace{1mm} d\rho} = - \frac{B_0 a^2 \pi}{L}\frac{dz}{dt}[/tex]

But dz/dt is just the velocity we're looking for!

Here is where I am now stuck. I have a nice expression for the electric field, E, in terms of velocity, dz/dt =v:

[tex]\vec{E} = - \frac{B_0 \pi a v_z}{2L} \hat{\phi}[/tex]

But the electric field points in the circumferential direction, not the z direction. In terms of finding terminal velocity, I want something to the effect of

[tex]\sum F_z = -mg + F_? = ma[/tex], where F? is the net force in the z direction due to my induced electric field. From this point it is easy to set ma =0 and solve for v-terminal. But I can't just say something like F=qE, because E points in the wrong direction.

Furthermore, I haven't at all used the fact that the ring is at a height H or that it has resistance R - are those unnecessary bits of information, or am I approaching this entirely wrong? I almost could solve this using conservation of energy, but it's the terminal velocity I want and not clear to me how to find that in an energy formulation of the problem (might be possible, though). So - can anyone help? o:)
 
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Oh, one more note. I also thought of this:

[tex]-\frac{d}{dt} \int B \cdot da = -\frac{d \mathcal{E}}{dt}[/tex]

, i.e. the change in magnetic flux. And then we could use the fact that

[tex]\vec{F}_{mag} = I \int d\vec{l} \times \vec{B} = \frac{\mathcal{E}}{R} \int d\vec{l} \times \vec{B}[/tex]

but then when I do out the cross product I get for the z-component of magnetic force

[tex]\vec{F}_{mag} = \frac{B_0 \rho \pi a}{L} \hat{z}[/tex]

which has no expression for velocity in it. So, how would I go about finding v-terminal from this?
 
quasar_4 said:
[tex]\nabla \times \vec{E} = -\frac{\partial \vec{B}}{\partial t} \Rightarrow \oint{\vec{E} \cdot d\vec{l}} = -\frac{d}{dt} \int{\vec{B} \cdot \hat{n} \hspace{1mm} da} \Rightarrow E(2 \pi a) = -\frac{d}{dt} \int{B_z \hspace{1mm}da} \Rightarrow E(2 \pi a) = -\frac{d}{dt} \int_0^{2\pi}{d\phi}\int_0^a{B_z \rho\hspace{1mm} d\rho} = - \frac{B_0 a^2 \pi}{L}\frac{dz}{dt}[/tex]

You seem to be assuming (without any justification) that [itex]\oint\textbf{E}\cdot d\textbf{l}=2\pi aE[/itex]... is that really true for any old electric field?

quasar_4 said:
Oh, one more note. I also thought of this:

[tex]-\frac{d}{dt} \int B \cdot da = -\frac{d \mathcal{E}}{dt}[/tex]

, i.e. the change in magnetic flux. And then we could use the fact that

[tex]\vec{F}_{mag} = I \int d\vec{l} \times \vec{B} = \frac{\mathcal{E}}{R} \int d\vec{l} \times \vec{B}[/tex]

but then when I do out the cross product I get for the z-component of magnetic force

[tex]\vec{F}_{mag} = \frac{B_0 \rho \pi a}{L} \hat{z}[/tex]

which has no expression for velocity in it. So, how would I go about finding v-terminal from this?

Isn't there also an electric force on the loop?
 

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