The angle between two straight lines.

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The problem involves finding the angle between two straight lines represented by the equations y=x and y=2x. Participants are also discussing a general formula for determining angles between lines.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the angle by assigning values to x and using the tangent function to find angles with respect to the x-axis. They express concern about the terminology used in their method.
  • Some participants suggest using the slopes of the lines directly to find the angles, proposing the use of arctangent to determine the angle between the lines.
  • Others introduce the idea of using a difference formula for angles between lines with different slopes, as well as exploring vector approaches and the dot product to find angles.
  • There is a discussion about the applicability of certain methods to lines that do not pass through the origin, with participants questioning the generality of the approaches presented.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with multiple methods being explored for finding the angle between the lines. Participants are engaging with each other's ideas, questioning assumptions, and clarifying concepts without reaching a consensus on a single method.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the constraints of finding a general formula applicable to all types of lines, not just those passing through the origin. There is an emphasis on understanding the definitions and relationships between slopes and angles.

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Homework Statement


Find the angle between two straight lines,##y=x## and ##y=2x##.
Find the general formula for finding the angles.


Homework Equations


##f(x)=mx+c##
##\tan(\theta)=\frac{opposite}{adjacent}##


The Attempt at a Solution


First I assign a value for x and calculate the value for y.Using the tan rule,I can find the angle(β) between the line y=x and x-axis.
Again repeat the same with y=2x and find the angle(∑).The angle between y=2x and y=x is ∑-β.

First I plugged in a number into the function.
Then the resulting value becomes the opposite and the x becomes the adjacent :biggrin:.
So I get $$\tan^{-1} \left( \frac{f(n)}{n} \right) - \tan^{-1} \left( \frac{g(n)}{n} \right)$$.
Where n is any number.f is the function of the line with the greater slope.g is the function of the line with the lower slope.
Is this correct? I am really worried about the terminology.
 
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adjacent said:

Homework Statement


Find the angle between two straight lines,##y=x## and ##y=2x##.
Find the general formula for finding the angles.


Homework Equations


##f(x)=mx+c##
##\tan(\theta)=\frac{opposite}{adjacent}##


The Attempt at a Solution


First I assign a value for x and calculate the value for y.Using the tan rule,I can find the angle(β) between the line y=x and x-axis.
Again repeat the same with y=2x and find the angle(∑).The angle between y=2x and y=x is ∑-β.

First I plugged in a number into the function.
Then the resulting value becomes the opposite and the x becomes the adjacent :biggrin:.
So I get $$\tan^{-1} \left( \frac{f(n)}{n} \right) - \tan^{-1} \left( \frac{g(n)}{n} \right)$$.
Where n is any number.f is the function of the line with the greater slope.g is the function of the line with the lower slope.
Is this correct? I am really worried about the terminology.

The description of your method seems a bit round-about.

Look at it this way. Both of your lines have a y-intercept of zero. If you draw a simple sketch,
you can make a couple of right triangles. You know the slope of each line from its equation, and you should be able to find the acute angle by taking the arctan of the slope, since the slope is equal to the tangent of the acut angle.

The angle between the lines should be arctan (2) - arctan (1).
 
SteamKing said:
The description of your method seems a bit round-about.

Did you understand my answer?
What I did was take a point in the x axis,for example, (4,0) and input the x value into the function to get the y value of the line at that point of x.Since we have got an opposite and an adjacent,we can use tan rule to find the angle.
SteamKing said:
Look at it this way. Both of your lines have a y-intercept of zero. If you draw a simple sketch,
you can make a couple of right triangles. You know the slope of each line from its equation, and you should be able to find the acute angle by taking the arctan of the slope, since the slope is equal to the tangent of the acut angle.

The angle between the lines should be arctan (2) - arctan (1).
Slope is equal to the tangent of the angle?
I think that method only works for lines passing through the origin.I was asked(Actually I am making it now lol) to find the general formula for all types of lines.
My method will also simplify to that if the lines passes through the origin.It also works for lines passing through any point in the y-axis.
 
The slope of a line is defined as the rise over the run, or the change in y over the change in x. Ergo, the tangent of the angle which the line makes with the x-axis is equal to the slope.
 
The simplest way to answer the question "what is the angle between a line with slope m_1 and m_2 (i.e. between the lines with equations y= m_1x+ b_1 and y= m_2x+ b_2.)?" is to use the "difference" formula:
tex(\alpha- \beta)= \frac{tan(\alpha)- tan(\beta)}{1+ tan(\alpha)tan(\beta)}

Here, tan(\alpha)= m_1 and tan(\beta)= m_2 so that \alpha- \beta, the angle between the lines, satisfies tan(\alpha- \beta)= \frac{m_1- m_2}{1+ m_1m_2}
 
Another approach is to use vectors and the dot product. A vector pointing in the direction of the first line is ##(1, m_1)##, and a vector pointing in the direction of the second line is ##(1, m_2)##. Then
$$\cos(\theta) = \frac{(1, m_1) \cdot (1, m_2)}{\sqrt{1 + m_1^2} \sqrt{1 + m_2^2}} = \frac{1 + m_1 m_2}{\sqrt{1 + m_1^2} \sqrt{1 + m_2^2}}$$
In this example, we have ##m_1 = 1## and ##m_2 = 2##, so ##\theta = \cos^{-1}(3 / \sqrt{10})##. It's not immediately obvious that this equals ##\tan^{-1}(2) - \tan^{-1}(1)##, but Matlab assures me that it does. :-p
 

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