The Arithmetic-Geometric Mean Inequality Problem

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The discussion revolves around verifying the convexity of the function f(x) = log(1+e^x) and using this property to demonstrate the inequality involving the arithmetic-geometric mean for positive real numbers x1, x2, ..., xn.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between the convexity of f(x) and the inequality. Some suggest expressing both sides of the inequality in terms of f(x) and using logarithmic properties. Others reference Jensen's inequality to relate the means of the function values.

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There is ongoing exploration of the implications of convexity and the application of Jensen's inequality. Participants are questioning the correctness of their manipulations and seeking clarification on the relationships between the expressions derived from the inequality.

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Some participants express uncertainty regarding the application of logarithmic properties and the implications of dropping terms in their derivations. The discussion includes references to the assumptions underlying Jensen's inequality and the conditions for its application.

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Homework Statement


verify that f(x) = log(1+ex) is convex and use this to show that
(1+x1)1/n(1+x2)1/n..(1+xn)1/n >= 1 + (x1x2...xn)1/n
where x1,x2,...xn are positive real numbers.


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I know f(x) is convex b/c f''(x) is always positive.
and I can guess the above ineqality is true, but
I do not konw how I use the f(x) to prove the inequality.
Can log (1+e^x) imply to (1+x1)1/n...(1+xn)1/n..?
 
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Start by writing xi=e^(log(xi) and try to express both sides of the inequality in terms of the function f(x). Taking the log of both sides would be a good start.
 
Thanks,
so.. f(x) = (1+ex)

(1+x1)1/n...(1+xn)1/n =
(1+elnxn)1/n ==> f(x)
Thus,
Σ((1/n)log(1+elnxi)) = Sigma (f(x)*(1/n))

Also,
log (1+ (ex1...xn)1/n
= log (1 + eln Σxi(1/n))
Therefore,

Σ(f(x)*(1/n)) >= f(Σ(1/n)*xi) as required. right?

I am not sure
log (1 + eln Σ(1/n)*xi) implies to f(Σ(1/n)*xi).
 
I'm not sure that is quite correct, since you seem to have dropped the log's at the end. But one side should be the mean of f(log(xi)) and other side should be f(mean log(xi)) where 'mean' is the arithmetic mean. If f is convex, what's the relation between those two? Hint: if f is convex then f((a+b)/2)<=(f(a)+f(b))/2. That can be generalized to more than just two values a and b.
 
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Sorry, my writing was confused.

I konw Jensen’s inequality.
Suppose that f(x) is a convex function defined on a convex subset C of Rn.
If a1,...,ak are nonnegative numbers with sum 1 and if x(1),...,x(k) are points of C, then
f(∑aix(i)) <= ∑aif((i)).

f(x) = log(1+ex)
(1+x1)1/n...(1+xn)1/n >= 1 + (x1..xn)1/n

(1+x1)1/n...(1+xn)1/n -->
(1/n)log(1+elog(x1))+...(1/n)log(1+elog(xn)) = ∑(1/n)log(1+elog(xi))

1 + (x1..xn)1/n -->
log(1 + elog(x1..xn)1/n) = log(1 + e(1/n)log(x1)+..(1/n)log(xn)) = log(1 + e∑(1/n)log(xi))

Therefore,
∑(1/n)log(1+elog(xi))>= log(1 + e∑(1/n)log(xi))
This inequality is equivalent to the Theorem as required inequality.

Right?
 
hsong9 said:
Sorry, my writing was confused.

I konw Jensen’s inequality.
Suppose that f(x) is a convex function defined on a convex subset C of Rn.
If a1,...,ak are nonnegative numbers with sum 1 and if x(1),...,x(k) are points of C, then
f(∑aix(i)) <= ∑aif((i)).

f(x) = log(1+ex)
(1+x1)1/n...(1+xn)1/n >= 1 + (x1..xn)1/n

(1+x1)1/n...(1+xn)1/n -->
(1/n)log(1+elog(x1))+...(1/n)log(1+elog(xn)) = ∑(1/n)log(1+elog(xi))

1 + (x1..xn)1/n -->
log(1 + elog(x1..xn)1/n) = log(1 + e(1/n)log(x1)+..(1/n)log(xn)) = log(1 + e∑(1/n)log(xi))

Therefore,
∑(1/n)log(1+elog(xi))>= log(1 + e∑(1/n)log(xi))
This inequality is equivalent to the Theorem as required inequality.

Right?

That's it.
 
Thanks!
 

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