The art of problem solving vs. openstax textbooks

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the effectiveness of different mathematics textbooks, specifically comparing the Art of Problem Solving (AoPS) textbooks with OpenStax math textbooks. Participants explore the broader implications of problem-solving skills and methodologies in mathematics education.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the AoPS textbooks may be more beneficial for developing problem-solving skills, as they contain challenging problems with less instructional content.
  • Others mention the value of classic texts like Polya's "How to Solve It" and suggest that solving problems from competitions like the Putnam and IMO could enhance problem-solving abilities.
  • A participant cites Richard Feynman's perspective that problem-solving can be learned but not taught, indicating a distinction between learning rules and developing analytical skills.
  • One participant questions the limitation of comparing only these two textbook series, suggesting that there are many other math books available.
  • Another participant expresses a willingness to consider other affordable math books if they are available, indicating a focus on accessibility.
  • A later reply references research from Stanford University outlining guidelines for effective problem-solving, emphasizing the importance of knowledge, heuristics, discipline, and belief in one's ability to solve problems.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the effectiveness of the AoPS versus OpenStax textbooks, with no consensus reached on which is superior. There is also a lack of agreement on whether to limit the discussion to just these two series of textbooks.

Contextual Notes

Some participants reference specific educational theories and research findings, but there are no explicit agreements on the validity or applicability of these claims to the textbooks in question.

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hello, I was wondering which book is better for actually genuinely getting better at math (not just learning actual tricks but training your brain as if it were an actual muscle), the art of problem solving textbooks or the openstax math textbooks?
 
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Polya's " How to Solve it" and other books of his are classics in that area, but I don't have direct experience. I'd say solving former Putnam and IMO problems should be helpful.
 
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Interestingly, physicist Richard Feynmann said that problem solving was something that could be learned but not taught.
 
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Albertus Magnus said:
Interestingly, physicist Richard Feynmann said that problem solving was something that could be learned but not taught.
Source?
 
Albertus Magnus said:
Interestingly, physicist Richard Feynmann said that problem solving was something that could be learned but not taught.
That might be why the AoPS books have a lot of challenging problems relative to he amount of instruction.

OP, I would recommend the AoPS books
 
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pines-demon said:
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The discussion is found in Feynmann's Tips on Physics chapter 2, sec. 2.6 He writes:

I don’t know how to tell you something that will transform you from a person who can’t analyze new situations or solve problems, to a person who can. In the case of the mathematics, I can transform you from somebody who can’t differentiate to somebody who can, by giving you all the rules. But in the case of the physics, I can’t transform you from somebody who can’t to somebody who can, so I don’t know what to do.
 
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Many years ago, Cambridge University published a book of what was considered difficult problems. I see that they are currently publishing "200 Puzzling Problems in Physics: with hints and solutions"
 
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hello, I was wondering which book is better for actually genuinely getting better at math (not just learning actual tricks but training your brain as if it were an actual muscle), the art of problem solving textbooks or the openstax math textbooks?
Why do you want to limit yourself to only these two series? There are many other math books!
 
martinbn said:
Why do you want to limit yourself to only these two series? There are many other math books!
mostly because I managed to get these books for free
 
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nbafitis28 said:
mostly because I managed to get these books for free
but if there are better relatively cheap books I am willing to spend a little on those
 
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Research done at Stanford University on solving math problems came up with four guidelines: know the subject of the problem so you have the resources to use., learn relevant heuristics, strategies or maneuvers that can simplify the work, develop a disciplined approach to working on problems ( e.g. know how to manage resources or when to change strategy), and finally believe that you can solve it. This belief helps choose the best approaches and how hard you work on a problem.

In other words, practice a lot.
 
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