The Cosmic Romance of Binary Stars: How Are They Formed?

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The discussion revolves around the formation of binary stars, exploring both the romantic notion of their existence and the scientific mechanisms behind their formation. Participants share perspectives on whether binary stars are formed as pairs from the beginning or if they can drift together over time.

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  • Some participants express a romantic view of binary stars, appreciating their beauty and significance in the cosmos.
  • One participant describes that binary stars can form when a large volume of gas partitions during compression, resulting in two stars that conserve angular momentum.
  • Another participant notes that while most stars are in multiple-star systems, the formation of gravitationally bound binaries from two single stars is exceedingly rare, as they typically scatter away from each other.
  • There is mention of ongoing debate regarding the birthing of multiple star systems, with fission and fragmentation being leading contenders, though computer simulations have not successfully replicated either process.
  • A participant shares a poetic interpretation of star formation, illustrating the process of hydrogen atoms gathering under gravity to form stars.
  • Another participant praises the poetic description of star formation, highlighting its accuracy and flow.

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Participants express differing views on the formation of binary stars, with some supporting the idea of simultaneous formation in stellar nurseries, while others acknowledge the rarity of gravitational capture between single stars. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact mechanisms of formation.

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Limitations include the lack of consensus on the mechanisms of binary star formation and the dependence on definitions of terms like "fission" and "fragmentation." The discussion also reflects uncertainty in the effectiveness of computer simulations in modeling these processes.

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Does anyone else find it cosmically romantic the significance of binary stars? The fact that they orbit a common area, looping around each other is stuff that poems, are made of.. Anyway, I'm a hopeless romantic, but I love the idea, its just really beautiful if you think about it..Any how, does anyone know how these systems are formed? Have most always been a pair, or do they slowly drift until they find each other?
 
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stars are formed by gases compressing to a critical density and igniting a fusion reaction. binary stars are formed when a large volume of gas partitions during compression into two different stars, they end up as binaries to conserve angular momentum. or drifting stars that are influenced by each others gravitational field can also end up as binary system to conserve angular momentum.
in cases where one star is much bigger than the other, the big/primary usually burns its fuel faster, ends up as a white dwarf, accretes material from the binary companion, reaches critical mass and explodes while synthesising heavier elements.
if you are a good poet you can turn simple ideas into complex, convoluted, romantic verses :)
 
It's worth noting that MOST stars are in multiple-star systems, dominated by binaries. As the above discusses, they form in the same stellar nursery and are gravitationally bound to each other from their conception. By contrast, while it is possible for two single stars to come together to form a gravitationally bound binary system, such an interaction is exceedingly rare. What would happen almost 100% of the time is the bodies would simply scatter off each other and fly away in different directions.
 
Newtons Apple said:
Does anyone else find it cosmically romantic the significance of binary stars? The fact that they orbit a common area, looping around each other is stuff that poems, are made of.. Anyway, I'm a hopeless romantic, but I love the idea, its just really beautiful if you think about it..Any how, does anyone know how these systems are formed? Have most always been a pair, or do they slowly drift until they find each other?

Could you form a romantic idea about a globular cluster, please?

Respectfully submitted,
Steve
 
The birthing of multiple star systems is still being debated. The two leading contenders are fission and fragmentation, although computer simulations are not entirely successful at replicating either. As Nabeshin noted, gravitational capture is not a contender, save in the case of globular clusters where tidal captures are more common [albeit still rare] than in less densely populated regions [re: http://www.nasa.gov/centers/marshall/news/news/releases/2003/03-130.html] .
 
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Mother Sun and Father Gravity

Hydrogen atoms drifting in space Father Gravity captivated
Atoms in the vicinity felt His attraction and were accelerated
Each atom joined a brother, proving the Laws of Nature cooperated
For thousands of centuries a huge cloud of hydrogen gas accumulated
Containing more atoms than anyone had ever contemplated

During untold billions of years Hydrogen molecules congregated
Drifting in the cosmos, the massive gas cloud was created
Into a hot dense core the molecules concentrated
To become a protostar they were fated
Because Father Gravity’s intense hug never abated

Pressure and temperature rose so high the atoms incinerated
In the process a tiny fraction of their mass annihilated
Energy, proving Prophet Albert correct, was liberated
Electromagnetic energy was immediately radiated
Out into space at the speed of light photons propagated

After a meal a Primitive Man and His Family luxuriated
Their gardens and orchards Mother Sun illuminated
Mother Sun and Father Gravity the Family appreciated
The gift of Life-giving Light they celebrated
And Mother Sun and Father Gravity they venerated

Bobbywhy, September, 1998. Alexandria, Egypt
 
Wow that is beautiful... It accurately describes the birth of a star and it's progression to a main sequence star (poetically of course) without feeling the slightest bit forced at any time. Not an easy task!
 

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