The Facts Everyone Should Know Test

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The discussion revolves around a quiz titled "The Facts Everyone Should Know," with participants sharing their scores and experiences. The conversation touches on the perceived US-centric nature of the questions, the difficulty of certain items, and the participants' backgrounds in relation to the quiz content.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants scored 100% on the quiz, while others scored lower, with scores like 95% and 91% mentioned.
  • There is a debate about the US-centric nature of the quiz, with some arguing that certain questions are more familiar to US citizens, while others believe that non-US citizens might also know the answers.
  • One participant noted that the quiz included historical figures like George Washington and George Bush, questioning the assumption that these figures would only be recognized by Americans.
  • Another participant expressed frustration over not knowing which questions they got wrong, speculating that it might have been related to US history.
  • Some participants shared their reasoning for their answers, particularly regarding questions about US presidents and historical events, indicating a mix of knowledge and uncertainty.
  • There were comments on the quiz's content, with some participants finding it surprising that certain questions were included, such as those related to popular US films.
  • One participant mentioned the ambiguity surrounding George Washington's status as the first president, suggesting that quizzes often focus on well-known figures.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the quiz's US-centric nature, with no consensus on whether it is fair or representative of general knowledge. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the appropriateness of the quiz content and the implications of scoring.

Contextual Notes

Some participants noted specific historical inaccuracies or ambiguities in their reasoning, highlighting the potential for confusion in interpreting quiz questions. There is also mention of educational differences between US and non-US participants.

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Not an idiot

You scored 100% not an idiot! Yay! You got them all right. You may not be a genius, but at least you won't show up on "Jay Walking" any time soon.

http://www.okcupid.com/tests/take?testid=17467732079199013753
 
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When he says US centered he's not kidding! I also did badly on the literature questions... this is physics forums after all.
 
Alkatran said:
When he says US centered he's not kidding!
Out of curiosity, what did you find US-centric about it? George Washington and George Bush were both on the test, but I think most would know those two.

The others were all people from other places.

I suppose, in theory, that a US citizen might be more aware that Germany (for example) is not a US state, but I would also suspect the Germans would be even more aware of it. Frankly, given the specifics of that question, I think more non-US citizens would get the answer right than US citizens. The particular country involved has something of an identity crisis in that regard.
 
Mediocre
You scored 95% not an idiot!
Ok, I think everyone should be able to get every question right. You came close, but you missed one or two. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you just clicked wrong or something.




My test tracked 1 variable How you compared to other people your age and gender:

You scored higher than 99% on Culturedness

It didn't tell me which ones I got wrong. (But I assume that the civil war thing was one of them.)
 
Danger said:
It didn't tell me which ones I got wrong. (But I assume that the civil war thing was one of them.)
I hate it when they don't tell you. Ok, the Civil War one I wouldn't have known if I wasn't in the US.
 
Danger said:
Mediocre
You scored 95% not an idiot! <snip>
My test tracked 1 variable How you compared to other people your age and gender: You scored higher than 99% on Culturedness
Boy, are there ever some idiots in your demographic. I scored 100% (all right), and I was only 54% for my age and gender.

Of course, you might have been the only one in your demographic to take that particular test.
 
100% too.

I don't actually remember seeing the famous communist, except on Simpsons!
 
95% for me too and I'm not sure what I got wrong...

I'm thinking either "Who did Abraham almost kill?" or "Who was the goddess of knowledge?"
 
I didn't really find that to be Yankeecentric, but most people from other hemispheres probably would. Unlike the Yank education system, wherein apparently the US is the only country on the planet, we are taught history of all major civilizations (but I can't remember when the Civil War started; I went with 1820's on that, based upon the firearms in service).
Given that Alkatran is a fellow Canuk, I can only assume that the educational establishment has shifted its focus since I got out of school over 30 years ago.
 
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I notice he misspelled "gandhi" and "odyssey." I got the Christopher Colombus one wrong (95%, 99th percentile).
 
  • #11
Do I even want to know what your signature is about?
 
  • #12
It's a Dilbert cartoon--little ceramic puppies that fit in your nose.
 
  • #13
It was part of a joke about people selling useless things.
 
  • #14
Danger said:
I didn't really find that to be Yankeecentric, but most people from other hemispheres probably would. Unlike the Yank education system, wherein apparently the US is the only country on the planet, we are taught history of all major civilizations (but I can't remember when the Civil War started; I went with 1820's on that, based upon the firearms in service).
Given that Alkatran is a fellow Canuk, I can only assume that the educational establishment has shifted its focus since I got out of school over 30 years ago.
It was 1860's. In the 1820's flintlocks were in service, and it wasn't until the 1840's that percussion-cap ignition became prevalent, and it wasn't until the 1860's that cartridge rifles became widely available.

I got exactly the same score that you did. I'm assuming I missed the Greek goddess of knowledge and maybe counted Canada as a US state.
 
  • #15
I got 100%, but then they did ask me if the Pope was Catholic.
 
  • #16
I got 91% right (mediocre). That would be wrong on the US president picture (I thought it was John Adams??), and one other US-centred question, I believe.

Probably, it was the "It's a wonderful life" question.
I answered Humphrey Bogart, but when I changed that to Jimmy Stewart, my score went up to 95% (keeping John Adams).
 
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turbo-1 said:
it wasn't until the 1840's that percussion-cap ignition became prevalent
I guess what screwed me up about that was that in a show I saw about the '49 gold rush, cap-and-ball revolvers seemed common enough that I assumed they had been around for a long time.

Now I want a nose puppy. :frown:
Dilbert is about the only thing that I miss from not getting the newspaper any more. I'll have to buy some of the books.
 
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twisting_edge said:
Out of curiosity, what did you find US-centric about it? George Washington and George Bush were both on the test, but I think most would know those two.

.

About 10 question was US-related (including Columbus).
"What a wonderful life"-this is a US film, US actors
"Jesse Jackson"-US politician, US athletes.
And who knows how George Washington looked like apart from USAns??

Just to mention the 3 worst US-centrisms.
 
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facts everyone should know:

what is the arabic title of "1001 nights"?

what is the "yoneda lemma?

how many simple groups have order less than 500?

why is there air?

is leoville las cases a "first growth" or "second growth"?

are e and pi algebraically independent?

who is afraid of virginia wolff?

how about them dawgs?

who recorded "transfusion"?

if a surjective group map admits a section, is the domain a semi direct product?

who directed "diabolique"?
 
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russ_watters said:
95% for me too and I'm not sure what I got wrong...

I'm thinking either "Who did Abraham almost kill?" or "Who was the goddess of knowledge?"

Isaac

Athena

I got 100%

arildno said:
I got 91% right (mediocre). That would be wrong on the US president picture (I thought it was John Adams??), and one other US-centred question, I believe.
Was that just a random guess? It seems strange that a European would know John Adams was a US president, but wouldn't recognize George Washington. I don't think many Americans would recognize a picture of John Adams.
 
  • #21
Dunce, 69%
Can you spell US-centered?
 
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BobG said:
Was that just a random guess? It seems strange that a European would know John Adams was a US president,
Why? He was one of the Constitution guys wasn't he, along with G.W and Thomas Jefferson?
That's why I remember him.
but wouldn't recognize George Washington.
Okay, this was my reasoning, for what it is worth:
"Thomas Jefferson had a beard, and so had Abe Lincoln, and also a hat.
So it can't be either one of them.
Furthermore, John Adams was fat and George Washington lean, or if George Washington wasn't too lean after all, it would be too easy if it was a picture of him. Therefore, the picture is of John Adams."

Unfortunately, my "reasoning" was all wrong..:frown:
 
  • #23
The president question sort of surprised me. The picture is obviously George Washington, but I thought that it was generally accepted that he was not the first president. There seems to be some ambiguity as to who actually deserves the title, but Washington was merely the first president under the current constitution.

edit: I just realized that this post seems to indicate that the test was asking about the first president. That's not what I meant. It just seems as if every sort of quiz about this subject involves only the 'big' presidents who are fairly easily recognized. Somebody like Fillmore would have stumped me, let alone the half-dozen or whatever that came before Washington.
 
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  • #24
Who the hell would have to know "Who starred in "It's a Wonderful Life?""
 
  • #25
You scored 78% not an idiot!

You probably get your news from Regis, don't you? You wouldn't be impossible to have a conversation with, but there would definitely be a few hand-on-forehead moments.

Well, history was never my thing, ever.
 
  • #26
BobG said:
Isaac

Athena
Ok, I should have gotten both of those right. I guess I'm not sure which I got wrong then - I was reasonably certain about the rest.
 
  • #27
Danger said:
The president question sort of surprised me. The picture is obviously George Washington, but I thought that it was generally accepted that he was not the first president. There seems to be some ambiguity as to who actually deserves the title, but Washington was merely the first president under the current constitution.

edit: I just realized that this post seems to indicate that the test was asking about the first president. That's not what I meant. It just seems as if every sort of quiz about this subject involves only the 'big' presidents who are fairly easily recognized. Somebody like Fillmore would have stumped me, let alone the half-dozen or whatever that came before Washington.
There were none before George Washington. What do they teach you in northern North America?
 
  • #28
82%

I missed the Abraham question, the Greek mythology question, and probably another one (mecca question maybe).
 
  • #29
turbo-1 said:
There were none before George Washington. What do they teach you in northern North America?
Before the Constitution of the United States, there was another document called the Articles of Confederation. Here is a url for more information about it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Articles_of_Confederation
That government, was ratified in 1781 and remained in effect until 1788 when the Constitution was ratified. Under that government, there were 8 presidents of the United States:
John Hanson
Elias Boudinot
Thomas Mifflin
Richard Henry Lee
John Hancock
Nathan Gorman
Arthur St. Clair
Cyrus Griffin
However, http://www.snopes.com/history/american/hanson.htm calls this information false.
 
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The Confederation was just that - an alliance of independent states which ceded very limited authority to the Congressional Congress. The federal government of the United States (and in fact the United States as opposed to 13 autonomous states) was not established until the ratification of the Constitution, and George Washington was the first president of that government.
 

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