The gravitational field g due to a point

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The discussion revolves around calculating the gravitational field due to a point mass, specifically focusing on the gravitational acceleration at a distance of R/2 from the center of a planet. The problem references Gauss' law for gravitational fields and involves understanding the implications of mass distribution within the planet.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the application of Gauss' law and question the correct mass to use when calculating gravitational acceleration at R/2. There is discussion about whether to consider a fraction of the planet's mass and how the mass distribution affects the calculation.

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Several participants are actively questioning the assumptions regarding mass distribution and the appropriate Gaussian surface for the calculations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the integral of dA and the relationship between mass and volume, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach to take.

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Participants are grappling with the implications of using a fraction of the planet's mass and the correct interpretation of the gravitational field within a planet's interior. There is uncertainty regarding the mass distribution and how it affects the gravitational field calculation.

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The gravitational field g due to a point mass M may be obtained by analogy with the electric field by writing an expression for the gravitational force on a test mass, and dividing by the magnitude of the test mass, m. Show that Gauss' law for the gravitational field reads:

phi = oint g*dA=-4*pi*GM

where G is the gravitational constant.


Use this result to calculate the gravitational acceleration g at a distance of R/2 from the center of a planet of radius R = 6.15 x 1006 m and M = 4.25 x 1024 kg.

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Hi, I got the final equation to be g= G M / r^2. My final result was -29.9 m/s^2. But that's not correct. I don't see what i did wrong. Anyone has any ideas?
 
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That equation is correct outside the planet. But you need the acceleration at R/2 from the center.
 
does that mean i would have to take a fraction of the mass, because of the radius?
 
BadSkittles said:
does that mean i would have to take a fraction of the mass, because of the radius?

It probably does, but then you need to know the distribution of mass inside the planet.
 
I tried to divide the mass by 2, and the answer is still wrong. Do you know any way to solve this problem T-T
 
Why would you divide the mass by 2, and not by 123, for example? How did you use Gauss's law to obtain the equation?
 
I got g * Integral of dA = -4*pi G*M

g * 4 * pi * r^2= -4* pi* G*M

g= - GM/ r^2

Maybe the integral of dA is something else?
 
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First of all, what is ## \int dA ## if you are asked for ##g## at ##R/2##?

Second, what is ##M## in this case?
 
∫ dA is your gaussian surface. Would that be 4/3 pi r^3 ? Since our radius is shortened. M is the Mass of the whole planet.
 
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BadSkittles said:
∫ dA is your gaussian surface.

And what is the surface here?

M is the Mass of the whole planet.

Even including that outside the surface?
 
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So the gaussian surface is 4 pi r^2 still, but the mass is a ratio between V and m?
 
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BadSkittles said:
So the gaussian surface is 4 pi r^2 still

You did not answer the question. Explain the shape of the surface, and then what its area is.

but the mass is a ratio between V and m?

Assuming V is volume and m is mass, how can mass be a ratio between volume and mass? That is dimensionally impossible.
 
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I think its m = M ( r^3/ R^3)
 
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R is the radius of the planet, and M is its mass. What are r and m?
 

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