The laws of motion-a toy with a accelerating car

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The problem involves a car accelerating down a hill, with a toy hanging from the ceiling of the car. The toy's mass is given, and the task is to determine the angle of the string and the tension in it while considering the forces acting on the toy.

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  • Participants discuss the equations of motion and the forces acting on the toy, including tension and weight. There are attempts to resolve the components of tension and gravitational force, with some questioning the assumptions about acceleration and the direction of forces.

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Participants are exploring different interpretations of the forces acting on the toy and its acceleration. Some have provided equations based on their reasoning, while others have raised questions about the correctness of these equations and the assumptions made in the free body diagram.

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There is an ongoing discussion about the components of acceleration and the forces acting on the toy, with some participants noting that the toy's acceleration has both horizontal and vertical components. The clarity of the free body diagram is also a point of contention.

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Homework Statement



A car accelerates down a hill,going form rest to 30.0m/s in 6.00s.A toy inside the car hangs by a string form he car's ceiling.The ball in the figure represents the toy,of mass 0.100 kg.The acceleration id such that the string remains perpendicular to the ceiling.Determine (a) the angle θ and (b) the tension in the string.

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The Attempt at a Solution


Are there any mistakes?I cannot find the correct answer.:cry:
Tcosθ=mg
Tocsθ=0.1X9.8=0.98----1
Tsinθ=ma
Tsinθ=0.1x30/6=0.5-----2
Then solve 1 and 2
 

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haha1234 said:

Homework Statement



A car accelerates down a hill,going form rest to 30.0m/s in 6.00s.A toy inside the car hangs by a string form he car's ceiling.The ball in the figure represents the toy,of mass 0.100 kg.The acceleration id such that the string remains perpendicular to the ceiling.Determine (a) the angle θ and (b) the tension in the string.

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution


Are there any mistakes?I cannot find the correct answer.:cry:
Tcosθ=mg
Tocsθ=0.1X9.8=0.98----1
Tsinθ=ma
Tsinθ=0.1x30/6=0.5-----2
Then solve 1 and 2
Tsinθ is the horizontal component of the tension in the string. But the car (and the toy together with it ) does not accelerate edit: exactly in the horizontal direction.

Draw the forces acting on the toy and find the components parallel and normal to the slope.

ehild
 
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haha1234 said:
Tcosθ=mg
∑F=ma, right? Your equation is ∑F=0. Is the toy accelerating?
 
ehild said:
Tsinθ is the horizontal component of the tension in the string. But the car (and the toy together with it ) does not accelerate in the horizontal direction.

Draw the forces acting on the toy and find the components parallel and normal to the slope.

ehild

Why the toy does not accelerate in the horizontal direction?
The question state that the car went from rest to 30.0m/s in 6.00s.
Are there anything wrong in my free body diagram?
 

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Sorry, I should have written that the acceleration of the toy is not horizontal. Its acceleration has both horizontal and vertical components. What is the direction of the acceleration?

ehild
 
ehild said:
Sorry, I should have written that the acceleration of the toy is not horizontal. Its acceleration has both horizontal and vertical components. What is the direction of the acceleration?

ehild

Is the weight of the toy accounts for the acceleration?
 
Is weight the only force acting on the toy?

ehild
 
ehild said:
Is weight the only force acting on the toy?

ehild
Are the weight and the tension both accounts for the acceleration?
 

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haha1234 said:
Are the weight and the tension both accounts for the acceleration?

Yes. (But your drawing is not clear to me. You can take that the top of the car is parallel to the road. )

ehild
 
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ehild said:
Yes. (But your drawing is not clear to me. You can take that the top of the car is parallel to the road. )

ehild

Finally I've found these two equation.
Tsinθcosθ+Wsinθcosθ=ma---1
Tcosθ=W----2
Are they correct?
 
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haha1234 said:
Finally I've found these two equation.
Tsinθcosθ+Wsinθcosθ=ma---1
Tcosθ=W----2
Are they correct?
No, neither.
What forces act on the toy, and in what directions?
In what direction is the resultant acceleration?
 
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haruspex said:
No, neither.
What forces act on the toy, and in what directions?
In what direction is the resultant acceleration?

Why Tcos≠mg?
 
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haha1234 said:
Why Tcos≠mg?

Why do you think it is?

If it was true that toy would not accelerate in vertical direction. But it accelerates down along the slope, together with the car, its acceleration has both horizontal and vertical components.

A drawing would be much help. Draw all forces acting on the toy and also the vector of its acceleration.

ehild
 
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