The Mysteries of the Cosmos: Uncovering the Hidden Truths and Purpose"

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The discussion revolves around the fundamental nature of the cosmos, questioning the origins and implications of the laws of physics, the nature of existence, and the purpose of humanity in relation to the universe. It encompasses philosophical inquiries, theoretical physics, and the complexities of cosmic phenomena.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the origins of the laws of physics, pondering what governs them and whether there is a "meta-law" or "Theory of Everything" that dictates the physical laws we observe.
  • Another participant argues that the laws of physics do not govern the universe but merely describe observed phenomena, suggesting that the cosmos may be simpler than complex theories like multiverses or string theory imply.
  • A subsequent post challenges the assertion that the laws do not govern, stating that the observed phenomena are indeed reflective of actual happenings in the universe.
  • One participant expresses skepticism about the possibility of ever fully understanding the cosmos, indicating a belief that there may always be more to learn.
  • Another participant notes the complexity of the cosmos and suggests that it may keep humanity occupied for a long time, raising questions about the meaning of life and humanity's purpose in understanding the universe.
  • A later post introduces the idea that the laws of the universe involve concepts of evolution, circular motion, and energy minimization, although this is presented as a question rather than a definitive claim.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit disagreement regarding the nature of the laws of physics, with some asserting they govern phenomena while others contend they merely describe observations. The discussion remains unresolved, with multiple competing views on the implications of these laws and the nature of the cosmos.

Contextual Notes

Participants explore both scientific and philosophical dimensions of the questions raised, indicating that the discussion may involve assumptions about the definitions of laws and observations, as well as the scope of inquiry into the cosmos.

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I have only one question at the moment which I am pondering over. Now I am aware the the Laws of Physics govern most happening in the Cosmos, but what made these laws? I mean how did the speed of light end up at 3*10^8, How did gravity come about, what started time and when/how and what did the Cosmos first come about (Before the Big bang). I think The Cosmos if far more complicated than any of us can ever fathom and holds so many phenomenons/strange happens, that it will keep mankind occupied for a long time. On another note, say one day when we do learn everything there is to know about the Cosmos, what is Mankinds purpose? So is the answer to the meaning of life to truly understand the Cosmos? Ultimately, my question to the world is: What is the point in the cosmos? Is there something intelectually pleasing behing it all, or is there something far more sinister happening behind the workings of the Cosmos? Who Know?
 
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I think you are a bit mixed up about the laws of physics. The laws of physics govern nothing in this Universe, they only describe that which we observe in this Universe.

The Cosmos may be far simpler than we imagine. For example we may not need complex theories like "multiverses" or string theory to explain what we observe.

Personally, I don't think we will ever learn all there is to know.
 
matt.o said:
The laws of physics govern nothing in this Universe, they only describe that which we observe in this Universe.

But surely the things that we observe are the things actually happening?
 
First of all welcome to these Forums Mark!
And I like your website - pretty impressive.

You have actually asked a number of questions not just "only one" but these Forums are the place to ask.
Markrids said:
I have only one question at the moment which I am pondering over. Now I am aware the the Laws of Physics govern most happening in the Cosmos, but what made these laws?
You can ask this as a scientific question - i.e. is there a 'meta-law', or "Theory of Everything" that determines which physical laws are possible or even inevitable? Or you can ask it as a philosophical/theological question. There are other Forums on PF to ask that type of question.
I mean how did the speed of light end up at 3*10^8, How did gravity come about, what started time and when/how and what did the Cosmos first come about (Before the Big bang).
Yes you will find threads here on these subjects.
I think The Cosmos if far more complicated than any of us can ever fathom and holds so many phenomenons/strange happens, that it will keep mankind occupied for a long time. On another note, say one day when we do learn everything there is to know about the Cosmos, what is Mankinds purpose? So is the answer to the meaning of life to truly understand the Cosmos? Ultimately, my question to the world is: What is the point in the cosmos? Is there something intelectually pleasing behing it all, or is there something far more sinister happening behind the workings of the Cosmos? Who Know?
Who indeed?

Keep asking the questions - though they will be probably better one at a time. :smile:

Garth
 
Thanks for the warm welcome. Its nice to be a part of a polite forum for a change. :smile:
 
arent the laws of the universe that everything evolves, everything spins/moves in circles and everything seeks a minimum energy configuration?
 

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