The Mystery of Ringed Planets: Uncovering the Cause

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the mechanisms preventing the rings of Saturn and other gas giants from condensing into moons, exploring theories related to gravitational forces, tidal interactions, and the lifespan of ring systems. The scope includes theoretical explanations and speculative reasoning regarding planetary ring dynamics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions what prevents Saturn's rings from condensing into a moon, suggesting a broader inquiry into the rings of other gas giants.
  • Another participant proposes a theory that Saturn's rings originated from a moon and may eventually be absorbed by Saturn over millions of years.
  • A different viewpoint highlights the Roche limit, explaining that the differential gravitational fields near Saturn are strong enough to disrupt medium-sized bodies, preventing them from forming moons.
  • Another participant mentions that other planets, like Uranus, also have rings and raises the question of why these rings do not condense into moons, suggesting stability in their gravitational solutions.
  • One participant asserts that rings are formed from moons that are torn apart by tidal forces, indicating that the process of forming rings does not reverse into moon formation, and speculates on the lifespan of rings being around 50,000 years.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various theories regarding the formation and stability of planetary rings, with no consensus reached on the primary mechanisms at play or the implications of these theories.

Contextual Notes

Some claims rely on specific definitions of gravitational interactions and assumptions about the lifespan of ring systems, which remain unresolved within the discussion.

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What's preventing Saturn's rings from condensing into a moon?
Or Jupiter's, Uranus' and Neptune's for that matter?
 
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Not sure but I think one theory is that saturns rings came form a moon and a few millon years the rings will be absored into saturn.
 
The rings are rather close to Saturn and the differential gravitational fields are big enough to tear medium sized bodies held together only by their own gravity apart. this is sometimed called the Roche limit there are some very small bodies in the rings called shepherd moons that are presumably continually accreting and losing material
 
Other planets have rings too. Uranus has some that were discovered in a flyby, and didn't I read somewhere that our very own Earth has a faint ring? It's a stable gravitational solution; why should it condense?
 
In fact, rings come from moons broken apart by tidal forces. The process does not work the other way. When a moon gets too close to its parent body, it can be torn apart by the gravitational forces, eventually forming a ring. The individual particles gradually lose orbital energy through collisions and eventually fall down to the planet. Astronomers speculate that rings last about 50,000 years.

- Warren
 

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