The physics concept most indicative of reality

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The discussion revolves around the question of which physical theory best represents fundamental and universal experiences. Participants explore various theories and concepts, touching on philosophical implications and personal interpretations of physical principles.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that a fundamental theory cannot encompass all universal experiences, suggesting the idea of "nothingness" as a creator of the universe.
  • One participant mentions Newton's second law, f=ma, as a significant physical principle.
  • Another participant humorously connects the relationship between the price of a donut and its hole to deeper meanings, hinting at philosophical reflections on nothingness.
  • Some participants suggest symmetry and information theories as contenders for representing universal experiences.
  • One participant expresses a desire to describe Hilbert Space in relation to universal existence but struggles with the concept of "universal experience."
  • Another participant emphasizes motion and the speed of light as fundamental concepts, linking them to the nature of time.

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Participants express a variety of views on what constitutes the best representation of fundamental and universal experiences, indicating that multiple competing perspectives exist without a clear consensus.

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Definitions of key terms such as "universal experience" remain unclear, leading to varied interpretations among participants. The discussion includes speculative ideas that are not fully fleshed out.

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Readers interested in the philosophical implications of physical theories, as well as those exploring the intersection of physics and abstract concepts, may find this discussion engaging.

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What physical theory represents best fundamental and universal experience?
 
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For me there would be a fundamental theory but it cannot represent all the universe experience of our world, because I believe in the nothingness (I am not talking about religious nothingness concept) that comes to create the whole universe and then diversified. If something that created from something then the world will become chaotic and not following the fundamental physical creation. If it come out from nothingness then the whole world will follow a fundamental way but diverse in somewhat somehow way, however the way of diversion can be studied but it is currently very unknown.
 
f=ma
 
I always have felt that if we could establish a relationship between the price of a donut and the price of a donut hole it would convey some profound meaning. Perhaps something about nothingness, as lol1986 mentions. It probably sounds like I'm joking but it really seems to me that there's something I'm not grasping or cannot articulate about that, as if it's a Zen koan. But I guess that would be economics rather than physics.
 
Loren Booda said:
What physical theory represents best fundamental and universal experience?

My vote is:

1) Symmetry
2) Information theories






Definition of a shin: A device used to find furniture in the dark
 
Schroedinger is really alluring here, but I don't know what "universal experience" means (I'm too timid to speak for the rock). It's in my heart's desire to describe the Hilbert Space as the strands of universal existence, and that's why I cannot choose this option.

Integral said:
f=ma

This must be it as long as quarks don't have feelings...

but I might be tempted by f = dp/dt
 
Loren Booda said:
What physical theory represents best fundamental and universal experience?


Since everything is in motion and it gives rise to time, i'd say - Motion and the speed of light c.
 

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