The ratio of the distance of the focus and the point

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The problem involves a ray of light incident on a concave mirror, specifically addressing the relationship between the distances of certain points related to the mirror's focus and center of curvature. The original poster presents a question regarding the ratio of these distances, with multiple-choice answers provided.

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  • Participants explore the definitions of points A and B, questioning their roles in the problem setup. There is discussion about the relevant equations for concave mirrors and the implications of the ray's path in relation to the focus. Some participants express confusion about the ratio being asked and the interpretation of the distances involved.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants attempting to clarify the problem statement and the specific ratio being asked for. Some have suggested that the original poster may have misunderstood the question, while others are exploring the implications of the geometry involved. There is no explicit consensus yet, but productive questions are being raised.

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There appears to be confusion regarding the definitions of points A and B, as well as the relationship between the ray's distance from the principal axis and its path through the focus. The original poster's interpretation of the problem may be influenced by the provided diagram, which has led to further questions about the setup.

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1. The problem statement: A ray of light is incident on a concave mirror. It is parallel to the principle axis and its height from principle axis is equal to the focal length of the mirror. the ratio of the distance of point B to the distance of the focus from the center of curvature is( AB is the reflected ray)
A)2/√3 B)√3/2 C)2/3 D)1/2


2. Answer to this problem give is: A

The Attempt at a Solution

: the ray of light is parallel to principle axis so it should pass through the focus. the point of the focus and the point of intersection of the ray and the focus are same. so i thought the answer is 1.
Have I done anything wrong?[/B]
 

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What are the relevant equations for a concave mirror ?
 
radius of curvature is twice that of focal length..
 
So the drawing should not be showing an R where it is drawn now. That's confusing.
What are A and B ?
 
BvU said:
So the drawing should not be showing an R where it is drawn now. That's confusing.
What are A and B ?
Here that's not R sorry for that .
That's B and the ray that is reflected from the concave mirror is AB
 
Good. Now re-read your first post and explain what ratio is asked for, because it's not really clear what is meant with
the ratio of the distance of point B to the distance of the focus from the center of curvature
 
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the ratio = the distance of point b from radius of curvature / the distance from focus to radius of curvature
 
Well, maybe I have to come back on my "Good" in post #6. As you describe it, B = F and the ratio is 1.

Since the answer is given, and it's ##1/{1\over 2}\sqrt 3## I start to suspect that B is not F. Could it be that B is the x-axis coordinate of the point where the beam is reflected on the mirror ?

[edit] oops... see bold faced.
 
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BvU said:
the x-axis coordinate of the point where the beam is reflected on the mirror
B is the point on the principle axis where the reflected ray intersects with the principle axis. A is the point where the ray touches the mirror. (sorry I forgot to mention that point).
 
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is there any relation , if the distance between the ray and principle axis is f? i mean will the ray pass through the focus if the distance between the principle axis and the ray is f, even though the ray is parallel to the axis.
 
  • #11
That's the idea of the thin lens / mirror rays: what comes in through the focus goes out parallel and vice versa.

My picture so far is (for the B = F)


mirror.jpg


And the one I like is the ? one ...
 
  • #12
yah! but the question given is the same as I've mentioned ! i really don't know what he meant to find?
 
  • #13
? / AR = 2/sqrt(3)
 
  • #14
thanks for the help! It does mean that i understood the question in a wrong way
 

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