The relation between the bermuda triangle and black holes

[Sabine]

is the bermuda triangle a black hole?

or is it just a magnetic field?

where did the objects which disapeared
in its atmosphere go?

 

[turbo]

is the bermuda triangle a black hole?

or is it just a magnetic field?

where did the objects which disapeared
in its atmosphere go?

There is no mystery about the Bermuda Triangle. It is an area that can experience some pretty dramatic weather, and it is well-trafficked by all kinds of vessels. It stands to reason that some small planes or boats might run into trouble in the region. There is nothing mysterious about the fact that vessels have "disappeared" there. Send those same vessels to the waters off the tip of South America, and a heck of a lot more of them would "disappear". It wouldn't make such a good story though, because by now most of us have seen televised coverage of the Whitbread Race and we have seen the extreme weather that the ships can encounter in that region.

 

[selfAdjoint]

The relationship between the bermuda triangle and black holes is that neither has been observed, and in spite of that they are both much discussed.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

Well, there may be more to it than that. There are no more disappearances in the BT than in many places around the world, but there is a tremendous amount of traffic, and [in the noise] it seems that there have been a few perplexing disappearances that might be explained by an occasional, large release of methane; an event thought to be associated with methane clathrate hydrate deposits, which are found not only in the BT, but in other areas around the world that claim similar disappearances. See for example the Japanese Devils Triangle and the research being done there to tap the methane from the clathrates. Also, apparently methane gas pockets exist that can suddenly give way. In another area near Ireland I think, one ship was found sitting on collapsed a gas pocket, on the ocean floor. It has also been shown by scale tests that this type of event can be capable of sinking ships and possibly even bringing down aircraft.

I'm short on time right now but will follow up with some links a little later. There are links in the Anomalies Napster above. See also the Seneca Guns. My personal suspicion is that these "guns" of lore might be large methane releases off the coast of W. Virginia.

In addition to the methane hypothesis, there is also the sailors lore of freak waves - a unique phenomenon that involves waves up to 90 feet high that seemingly appear from nowhere, and the existence of which is only recently confirmed by satellite images. So this could also explain some strange disappearances.

I will follow up on this thread with some links.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

Oh yes, it is interesting to note that the Clathrate Gun Hypothesis now suggests that these large releases of methane can be extinction level events. Clathrate deposits may also lead to vast supplies of methane for energy conversion. So, you just never know where a significant clue may lie. In a nutshell, this shows why it's worth looking into these fringe subjects.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

Correction: The Seneca Guns are found in North Carolina. Here is a recent report.
http://www.journalnow.com/servlet/S...1031779664026&path=!localnews&s=1037645509099

Previous discussions and links with related information:
https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=37096
https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=27512

See also the sections on clathrates and freak waves here:
https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=58374

More recent supporting information can be found through Google. This story has been evolving quickly over the last few years.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

Due to the reference to Black Holes I am closing this thread. Please continue with discussions here.
https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=37096