The Relationship Between Inverse and Image Functions Explained

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The discussion revolves around the concepts of inverse images and image functions in mathematics, particularly focusing on their definitions, properties, and the conditions under which a function is invertible. Participants explore the implications of injectivity and surjectivity on the existence of inverses, as well as the notation used to express these concepts.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express confusion over the notation for inverse images and image functions, suggesting a need for clearer representations.
  • One participant asserts that if a function has an inverse, the image of the inverse and the inverse image are the same, but acknowledges that this should be considered a theorem due to its non-obvious nature.
  • Examples are provided, such as the function f(x) = x^2, illustrating how the inverse image changes based on the domain restrictions, highlighting the importance of injectivity for invertibility.
  • Another participant argues that a function does not need to be bijective to be invertible, only injective, stating that the existence of an inverse function depends on the function being one-to-one.
  • Contrasting views are presented regarding the necessity of bijectiveness for a function to have an inverse, with references to the sine function as an example of a non-invertible function when considered over the entire real line.
  • One participant introduces a theorem relating injectivity, surjectivity, and the existence of left and right inverses, suggesting that a two-sided inverse is required for bijectiveness.
  • Another participant comments on the rigor of definitions in textbooks, questioning the sources of such rigor.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit disagreement regarding whether a function must be bijective to be invertible, with some asserting that injectivity is sufficient while others maintain that bijectiveness is necessary. The discussion remains unresolved on this point.

Contextual Notes

Some participants reference specific mathematical definitions and theorems, but there are unresolved assumptions regarding the conditions under which these definitions apply, particularly in relation to the domains and codomains of functions.

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The inverse image of a function, and the image of the inverse of a function is written in the same way right?
It is so confusing.
Are there any better ways to write such stuff?
 
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No, it's not confusing. If f has an inverse, then the image of the inverse and the inverse image are exactly the same.

(I once made a fool of myself when, giving a proof about "inverse images", I assumed (naturally!) that the function had an inverse!)
 
Example: Consider f(x) = x^2.

If it's defined on the whole real axis, then f^{-1}(\{4\}) = \{ +2, -2 \}.
If we restrict it to the positive axis, then If it's defined on the whole real axis, then f^{-1}(\{4\}) = \{ 2 \}.
But now the function is injective, so invertible (you can in fact write down an explicit inverse, namely g(x) = \sqrt{x}. The inverse satisfies g(4) = 2. Actually, the inverse in a point is the pre-image of that point (which consists of just one element).
 
>>>If f has an inverse, then the image of the inverse and the inverse image are exactly the same.
I have proven this. But it should be a theorem as it is not trivial or obvious to me.
 
It's not? Look at my example. The inverse image of y contains all the points that get mapped by f to y. A function has an inverse if it's injective, that is: the inverse image contains just one point x_y. If we define the inverse f^{-1} as the function that satisfies
f^{-1}f = f f^{-1} = \mathrm{id} (\ast)
we must assign x_y to y. We could also define the inverse function as the map that does this, and then it's almost trivial to check that (\ast) is satisfied.
 
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Example: Consider f(x) = x^2.

If it's defined on the whole real axis, then f^{-1}(\{4\}) = \{ +2, -2 \}.
If we restrict it to the positive axis, then If it's defined on the whole real axis, then f^{-1}(\{4\}) = \{ 2 \}.
But now the function is injective, so invertible (you can in fact write down an explicit inverse, namely g(x) = \sqrt{x}. The inverse satisfies g(4) = 2. Actually, the inverse in a point is the pre-image of that point (which consists of just one element).

Just wanted to point out that a function has to be bijective to be invertible. So it has to be both injective and surjective. So if we have the function f: \mathbb{R}^{+} \to \mathbb{R}^{+} defined by f(x) = x^{2}, then f^{-1}(x) = \sqrt{x} (positive square root) is bijective.

Also maybe you are talking about the following: \overrightarrow{f}: \mathcal{P}(X) \rightarrow \mathcal{P}(Y) is defined by \overrightarrow{f}(A) = \{f(x) | x \in A \} for A \in \mathcal{P}(X) \} and \overleftarrow{f}: \mathcal{P}(Y) \rightarrow \mathcal{P}(X) is defined by \overleftarrow{f}(B) = \{x \in X | f(x) \in B \} for B \in \mathcal{P}(Y) }. These two functions are basically extensions of f and f^{-1}.

So if f is a bijection with inverse f^{-1}, then f(x) = y_0 iff x = f^{-1}(y_0) so that \overleftarrow{f}(\{y_0\}) = \{f^{-1}(y_0)\}. So the RHS could contain more than 1 element, or none at all for certain values of y.
 
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A function doesn't have to be bijective to be invertible, only injective. Essentially, one-to-one means that f^{-1} is a function with domain Im(f). Surjectiveness will tell you that the domain of the inverse (exists if f is one-to-one) is precisely the codomain.

Just look at any analysis text that needs to use inverses: they will show that f is one-to-one and then start invoking f^{-1}, since it exists.
 
Look at this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse_function. For the inverse function to exist and be valid, it must be bijective.

So the function \sin: [-\pi/2, \pi/2] \to [-1,1] is bijective and thus invertible. But \sin: \mathbb{R} \to \mathbb{R} is not invertible. It essentially hits the image, and is one-to-one (first one). Usually we say that the inverse of \sin(x) is \arcsin(x). But we make assumptions about the domain and codomain (i.e restrictions).
 
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Tronter: I seldom see such rigor in textbooks. Wonder where you get that?
 
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tronter said:
Just wanted to point out that a function has to be bijective to be invertible. So it has to be both injective and surjective. So if we have the function f: \mathbb{R}^{+} \to \mathbb{R}^{+} defined by f(x) = x^{2}, then f^{-1}(x) = \sqrt{x} (positive square root) is bijective.

Also maybe you are talking about the following: \overrightarrow{f}: \mathcal{P}(X) \rightarrow \mathcal{P}(Y) is defined by \overrightarrow{f}(A) = \{f(x) | x \in A \} for A \in \mathcal{P}(X) \} and \overleftarrow{f}: \mathcal{P}(Y) \rightarrow \mathcal{P}(X) is defined by \overleftarrow{f}(B) = \{x \in X | f(x) \in B \} for B \in \mathcal{P}(Y) }. These two functions are basically extensions of f and f^{-1}.

So if f is a bijection with inverse f^{-1}, then f(x) = y_0 iff x = f^{-1}(y_0) so that \overleftarrow{f}(\{y_0\}) = \{f^{-1}(y_0)\}. So the RHS could contain more than 1 element, or none at all for certain values of y.



Nice post. Extending your remarks a bit, the following is a useful theorem about inverses:

Let f:A->B, with A not empty. Then

f is injective iff f has a left-inverse,
f is surjective iff f has a right-inverse,
f is bijective iff f has a two-sided inverse (a left and right inverse that are equal).

This two-sided inverse is called the inverse of f.
 
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Nice theorem.
A function is a special type of relation R in which every element of the domain appears in exactly one of each x in the xRy. A relation is a subset of a Cartesian product. A Cartesian product AXB is a set of (a,b) tuple where a belongs to A, and b belongs to B. A (a,b) tuple is actually the set {a,{a,b}}.
 
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