The simplest delicious nutritious meals?

[tgt]

So you are recommending a diet of bread and water? I always thought of that as a punishment.

I don't recommend it to anyone. It works for me. You're quiet right that it's like punishment. Anything tastier and I might overeat.

 

[chroot]

So, tgt, this thread has gone on for seven pages now, and you're still insisting that:

1) Six slices of bread is a perfectly nutritious meal.
2) Your weight problem is caused by your food being 'too delicious.'

I give up.

- Warren

 

[P4PPY]

I read a book back in the 90's about blood types and how they digest foods in different ways. I had never taken it very serious at the time because I was young and felt healthy.

Jump forward about 10 years I had put on some weight... and had little to no energy at all. I came across the book again and found out that the Dr. who wrote it had built a website based on the principles of blood type diets.

Me being O neg decided to give it a whirl, after all... it was telling me that I needed to eat more meat! (Me loves meat!)

I went to the local market and picked up about 20 pounds of steaks and a couple bags of charcoal for the grill.

At the time I was running my own business and staying at home during the day taking care of my kid. So every day around noon I would take my kid to school. Come home, light up the BBQ and grill me a nice fat steak. I'll admit, it had been awhile since I had really eaten meat on a daily basis, and it took quite some time for my body to readjust to this new diet.

After about a week went by and my routine was very consistent I noticed that I was sleeping better, waking up without a problem and had energy throughout the entire day. I started adding some vegetables to my diet for snacks and stuff throughout the day.

I lived like this for about 3 years and never felt better, I dropped a lot of weight and felt healthier than ever. Granted... I have no idea what this meat is doing to the inside of my body, but I'd rather live 20 years with this much energy than 40 years without it.

Since I've moved back to Alaska, I no longer have the privilege of going to the store and buying fresh, healthy meat on a weekly basis... it's been almost 2 years and my body and mind have reverted back to it's old state. Just recently I have started ordering meat from Washington and having it shipped up to me by friends and family... I can already start to feel the energy coming back.

Anyways.. back to the original comment I was going to make before I started rambling...

it's worth checking out the website, no gimmicks, no investments... just a simple list of things your blood type breaks down easier and more efficiently.

here's the link if anyone is interested:
http://www.dadamo.com/

 

[Moonbear]

P4PPY, have you ever been tested for iron-deficient anemia? If you're feeling fatigued or lacking energy, and it goes away when you eat more meat, maybe you're iron-deficient. If you have trouble getting a reliable supply of meat where you are, try an iron supplement, and also check that the vegetables you're eating are providing a complete protein.

 

[lisab]

When that blood type book came out, I didn't give it a second thought. I thought, yeah, more junk science. But then I learned that my niece, who is a PhD ornithologist, swears by it...and she'd no dummy.

I still haven't read it, and in fact I had forgot all about it, so thanks for posting the link. I'll check it out.

Anyone on PF know anything about it?

 

[Moonbear]

For the upteen's time the soup is for taste only, otherwise it's plain wholemeal bread.

That's it? You're eating bread and only bread and think it's a nutritious meal? Have you NEVER had an biology or nutrition or even a home ec class somewhere in your life to realize how pathetically deficient of a diet that is? Sure, you'll lose weight, but that's about the unhealthiest possible way to lose weight short of complete starvation.

http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts-C00001-01c11GB.html

Just take a look at all the vitamins and minerals bread DOES NOT provide.

 

[Moonbear]

When that blood type book came out, I didn't give it a second thought. I thought, yeah, more junk science. But then I learned that my niece, who is a PhD ornithologist, swears by it...and she'd no dummy.

Why would being an expert on birds make one qualified to judge a book on nutrition? Sounds like yet another gimmick diet book to make the author rich.

 

[lisab]

Why would being an expert on birds make one qualified to judge a book on nutrition? Sounds like yet another gimmick diet book to make the author rich.

She's had a whole lot more biology than me, that's all ! I was too busy taking physics and chemistry courses...I took biochem once and almost went nuts from all the memorization.

I just did a quick look on the author; he's widely discredited by nutritionists.

But I also learned that in Japan, there's a widely held believe that blood type influences personality.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_blood_type_theory_of_personality

I'll file that in my "Well, I'll be darned!" file.

 

[Noone]

10 serving's for under $20

1.Can of refried bean
1-green bell pepper
1-red bell peper
1-green onion's
1-onion
torte shell's
Cheese of your pick
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chop bell peppers ,green onoins ,and onion mix with bean's, add cheese if wanted. then place in pan, add 1-tea spoon oil of your choice, place lid over, and cook till golden brown on both side's.
For a side dish have a salad with cumber's carrots tomoto's, and celo. Then for after dinner snack have a red apple, and two glasses of water.
This should give you what your body need's
finsih with vita suppliments, then sleep :D tastes good and is cheap

 

[Noone]

eh oops not 10 servings for under $20 ignor that statement

 

[Noone]

if you want to lose wait every day and stay healthy just be a vegan :D i havnt seen a single person that is a vegan, and there weight is over 200 pounds.

 

[Moonbear]

if you want to lose wait every day and stay healthy just be a vegan :D i havnt seen a single person that is a vegan, and there weight is over 200 pounds.

You forgot that tgt has specified the diet has to allow him to stay lazy too. You can't be lazy about your eating habits if you want to stick to a vegan diet...it's very difficult to ensure a balanced diet with no animal products.

 

[Noone]

I didnt read his comment of how i would like to stay in normal habbits. And yes it would be hard for someone to stay with there normal habbits and be a vegan. Moderation would be the key factor in controling the amount of a single food group. Thanks for the update, i will try to read more post's before i make a comment

 

[Moonbear]

Then again, bread and water IS a vegan diet. But, yeah, still very nutritionally incomplete.

 

[lisab]

You forgot that tgt has specified the diet has to allow him to stay lazy too. You can't be lazy about your eating habits if you want to stick to a vegan diet...it's very difficult to ensure a balanced diet with no animal products.

A few months ago, my 15 year-old daughter became vegan. I told her I'm not going to fix a special meal for just her. So, since then she's had to learn how to cook. It takes special effort - she has to learn to cook dishes from scratch, and read ingredient labels. It's a pain that she's vegan, but it's also a great way for her to learn how to cook.

I do insist that she takes vitamins daily to get B-12, and of course I've taught her to combine legumes, rice, and corn to get a complete protein. Are there any other nutrients that are especially hard to get on a vegan diet?

 

[Moonbear]

I do insist that she takes vitamins daily to get B-12, and of course I've taught her to combine legumes, rice, and corn to get a complete protein. Are there any other nutrients that are especially hard to get on a vegan diet?

B-12 is the big one that comes to mind, and combining vegetables to ensure complete proteins is the other, so you're covered on that. Particularly for a female, she should pay attention to iron too. That's easy to get from meats, but you need to pay more attention to it with a vegan diet (you can get iron in a vegan diet, but it takes some care) or take an iron supplement (unless it's already in the multvitamin you're insisting she take).

 

[Evo]

What is the reasoning behind a vegan diet? It's not healthy, it's not normal, basically you can become very ill on a vegan diet without taking supplements, which would be healthier coming naturally from food.

Vegetarian can be a very healthy diet, why not just be vegetarian?

 

[chroot]

Evo, that's an enormous question that some people could write entire books trying to explain. Let's try to keep the thread on topic -- though I'm not sure what "on topic" means here anymore.

- Warren

 

[eieio]

tgt: From reading your posts and responses, it sounds to me like you have an eating disorder, and that you probably do not need to lose weight. What is your height and weight, if you don't mind me asking?

 

[P4PPY]

Why would being an expert on birds make one qualified to judge a book on nutrition? Sounds like yet another gimmick diet book to make the author rich.

I wouldn't say anyone is getting rich off his material. Everything that was in his book is available on his website, and it's all free.

I've never tried just taking supplements, I guess because in every physical I have ever had... or blood work that has been done on me, nothing was ever flagged. But then again, do they look for things like that during the blood work?

I've tried taking vitamin supplements and all they did was make me sick, I was told by my doctor that that happens when you get an overabundance of vitamins. I can't even take vitamin C tablets because it makes me nauseous. I've heard that it is very hard to OD on those things too.

At the time I was drinking a gallon of whole milk every 2 days and eating at least 2 square meals a day too lol... wow... a lot has changed!

 

[tgt]

tgt: From reading your posts and responses, it sounds to me like you have an eating disorder, and that you probably do not need to lose weight. What is your height and weight, if you don't mind me asking?

No, I just like food. Have a lot of intuition and feel for them whatever that means.

 

[tgt]

I do accept that soup and bread meals are lacking in nutrients.

Vegan diets also lack nutrients but people recommend taking vitamins and supplements.

What about this idea:
Say you have a packet of instant soup labelled: Chicken and vegetables
How about putting the essential chemicals of chicken and vegetables inside this packet?

Same goes for example: tomato and bacon.

Wouldn't that make the person with a soup and bread diet better nutritionally?

Now I ask, what is the difference between eating real chicken and vegetables versus this instant packet of soup with chicken and vegetable chemicals?

 

[tribdog]

I'm not exactly sure what a vegetable chemical is, but I do know that I would rather drink a glass of salt water than half a glass of hydrochloric acid and half a glass of Sodium Hydroxide even though they are made of the exact same "chemicals".
The thing you want to watch for when eating chicken chemicals is which part of the chicken the chemical came from. Some of the less expensive soup mix is made with beak crystals, and I don't have to tell you what will happen if you eat too much of this. I know that Canada and either Rhode Island or Wyoming have made it illegal for anything with more than 6% mammal chemical to be labeled as chicken chemical. Of course they say nothing about artificial chicken chemical.

 

[Moonbear]

What is the reasoning behind a vegan diet? It's not healthy, it's not normal, basically you can become very ill on a vegan diet without taking supplements, which would be healthier coming naturally from food.

Vegetarian can be a very healthy diet, why not just be vegetarian?

Since we don't allow religious discussion here, we probably shouldn't discuss veganism. I'm pretty sure it's more religion than anything else the way it attracts followers who have this need to evangelize to others about their beliefs.

 

[lisab]

Since we don't allow religious discussion here, we probably shouldn't discuss veganism. I'm pretty sure it's more religion than anything else the way it attracts followers who have this need to evangelize to others about their beliefs.

My daughter's vegan, and she's athiest (like me). There are many drivers for her decision, but religion isn't one of them. Mostly, it's that she abhors animal cruelty the way I hate bullies.

And she knows that milk cows and laying hens are sent to the slaughter house after they no longer produce, so she won't support eating eggs or dairy.

However, we used to have a few laying hens, and she would eat their eggs. She knew that after our "ladies" stopped laying (technical term: henopause), they were free to live out their lives pecking and scratching. They were wonderful pets.

As far as evangelizing, she's passionate about it but will talk about it only if you bring it up. But she'd never be in-your-face about it.

 

[chroot]

Since we don't allow religious discussion here, we probably shouldn't discuss veganism. I'm pretty sure it's more religion than anything else the way it attracts followers who have this need to evangelize to others about their beliefs.

I'd be careful about making such sweeping generalizations.

- Warren

 

[tgt]

I'm not exactly sure what a vegetable chemical is, but I do know that I would rather drink a glass of salt water than half a glass of hydrochloric acid and half a glass of Sodium Hydroxide even though they are made of the exact same "chemicals".
The thing you want to watch for when eating chicken chemicals is which part of the chicken the chemical came from. Some of the less expensive soup mix is made with beak crystals, and I don't have to tell you what will happen if you eat too much of this. I know that Canada and either Rhode Island or Wyoming have made it illegal for anything with more than 6% mammal chemical to be labeled as chicken chemical. Of course they say nothing about artificial chicken chemical.

So you think my idea is whacked? At least you could add the chemicals of the part of the chicken that make it taste like chicken?

 

[Moonbear]

I'd be careful about making such sweeping generalizations.

- Warren

Sorry, but I've never met a vegan who didn't act religious about it, everything from their reasons for being a vegan down to pushing everyone else they know to become one, and expecting everyone to cater to their wacky dietary requirements, and none of it based on any good, solid evidence for eating a healthy diet, but rather some bizarre notions that humans aren't part of the food chain the rest of the organisms on the planet thrive on.

 

[Moonbear]

So you think my idea is whacked? At least you could add the chemicals of the part of the chicken that make it taste like chicken?

Why not just eat the chicken?

 

[turbo]

Why not just eat the chicken?

Oh, sure! Just drag in any wild idea! Are you whacked?!

The food industry knows what's good for us, so instant soup, hamburger helper, noodles in a cup, etc, must be great. They process the raw food to make it even better for us.