The singularity moment at the beginning of the universe

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The forum discussion centers on the concept of singularities at the beginning of the universe and within black holes, questioning their implications on the uncertainty principle. Participants assert that singularities represent a breakdown of classical theories, particularly Einstein's General Relativity, and highlight the need for a more comprehensive theory that incorporates quantum mechanics. Current research in quantum cosmology, including computer modeling and background-independent quantum geometry, aims to address these issues without invoking singularities. Key resources mentioned include the Stanford database for quantum cosmology papers and the Einstein-Online website for accessible explanations.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of Einstein's General Relativity (GR)
  • Familiarity with quantum mechanics principles
  • Knowledge of quantum cosmology concepts
  • Basic grasp of computer modeling in scientific research
NEXT STEPS
  • Research "quantum cosmology" papers from the Stanford database (post-2006)
  • Explore background-independent quantum geometry as discussed in Scientific American articles
  • Investigate the role of the Planck spacecraft in mapping the cosmic microwave background
  • Study the implications of singularity existence theorems in General Relativity
USEFUL FOR

Physicists, cosmologists, and students interested in the intersection of quantum mechanics and general relativity, particularly those exploring the nature of singularities and the early universe.

  • #31
Chalnoth said:
Flatness? That was expected by most cosmologists, due to inflation. The recent accelerated expansion may indicate that we don't know how gravity behaves on very large scales. Or it may indicate that we don't know all of what makes up the universe. Currently there's not enough evidence to tell either way, and it would be foolish to jump too hard on one possibility.


Pair production is not something that falls under the purvey of GR. Why should it explain this?

Pair production is a 'side-effect' of a gravitational field (it is actually the cause of the gravitational field). If you knew the mechanism of gravity then this is easily explainable. GR can't explain it because it doesn't really have a 'mechanism' for gravity -- only a space-time warp. Its the association of this so called 'anti-matter cloud' and intense gravitational fields that indicates something missing in GR. (Note, I predicted this first as a graduate student in physics in 1975).
 
Space news on Phys.org
  • #32
Rymer said:
Pair production is a 'side-effect' of a gravitational field (it is actually the cause of the gravitational field). If you knew the mechanism of gravity then this is easily explainable. GR can't explain it because it doesn't really have a 'mechanism' for gravity -- only a space-time warp. Its the association of this so called 'anti-matter cloud' and intense gravitational fields that indicates something missing in GR. (Note, I predicted this first as a graduate student in physics in 1975).
Seems like you've gone off the deep end there. There is no evidence for any such thing being an accurate description of how the world works.
 
  • #33
Chalnoth said:
Seems like you've gone off the deep end there. There is no evidence for any such thing being an accurate description of how the world works.

How do you know if you reject it out of hand. See other plots -- the theory line is based on this derivation. No data-fitting.

Last post on this thread.
 
  • #34
Rymer said:
How do you know if you reject it out of hand. See other plots -- the theory line is based on this derivation. No data-fitting.

Last post on this thread.
I'm not saying I'm rejecting it out of hand. I'm saying you're going much, much too far by saying, "This is how gravity works." I'm sorry, but that statement is completely and utterly unwarranted, given that currently we have no confirmed theory of gravity beyond General Relativity.
 
  • #35
Rymer said:
How does GR explain the clouds of pair production seen around/near extremely massive objects of the Milky Way galactic core areas?

What "clouds clouds of pair production seen around/near extremely massive objects of the Milky Way galactic core areas?" Give a reference published in a mainstream, reputable journal/text, as required by the Physics Forums rules.
 
  • #36
George Jones said:
What "clouds clouds of pair production seen around/near extremely massive objects of the Milky Way galactic core areas?" Give a reference published in a mainstream, reputable journal/text, as required by the Physics Forums rules.

Been several -- latest was is January 2008 -- http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/news/topstory/2007/antimatter_binary.html

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Large-Antimatter-Cloud-Discovered-in-Galactic-Core-75831.shtml

http://www.centauri-dreams.org/?p=1667

Still looking for the reported Nature article.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 13 ·
Replies
13
Views
5K
  • · Replies 12 ·
Replies
12
Views
3K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 14 ·
Replies
14
Views
4K
  • · Replies 25 ·
Replies
25
Views
4K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
1K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
2K
  • · Replies 20 ·
Replies
20
Views
3K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
2K