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Ken G said:I am not making up my own, that is precisely the definition I am using.
The definition you are using is in ordinary language, and as I've already pointed out several times in this thread (though a while ago now), ordinary language is vague. That is what you and @Stephen Tashi are illustrating. As soon as you both agree on the actual mathematical problem being posed, you agree on the answer. So the only dispute left is about vague ordinary language. Such disputes are pointless IMO.