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The discussion revolves around Corollary 11.1.5 from D. J. H. Garling's book on metric and topological spaces, specifically focusing on the properties of the standard metric on \( \mathbb{C}^d \). Participants seek clarification on two inequalities related to the metric distance and the triangle inequality, exploring their proofs and implications.

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  • Peter asks for explanations regarding the inequalities involving the distance function \( d(z+w, 0) \) and the triangle inequality.
  • Some participants suggest using the properties of absolute values and the triangle inequality to prove the first inequality.
  • Another participant proposes squaring both sides of the second inequality and applying the Cauchy-Schwarz inequality to derive the result.
  • Peter reflects on the implications of the triangle inequality and acknowledges the connection to Cauchy's inequality in his reasoning.
  • One participant confirms Peter's reasoning as correct and notes that the second question relates to the triangle inequality.

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Participants generally agree on the validity of the triangle inequality and its application to the problems at hand. However, the discussion includes various approaches and methods for proving the inequalities, indicating that multiple perspectives and techniques are being considered.

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Participants reference previous corollaries and propositions from Garling's text, indicating that the discussion is grounded in specific mathematical definitions and theorems. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity involved in proving the inequalities, particularly in relation to the assumptions made about the components of the vectors involved.

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I am reading D. J. H. Garling's book: "A Course in Mathematical Analysis: Volume II: Metric and Topological Spaces, Functions of a Vector Variable" ... ...

I am focused on Chapter 11: Metric Spaces and Normed Spaces ... ...

I need some help with Corollary 11.1.5 ...

Corollary 11.1.5 reads as follows:
Garling - Corollary 11.1.5 ... .png


In the above proof by Garling we read the following:

" ... ... : using the inequality of the previous corollary,##d( z + w , 0 ) = \left( \sum_{ j = 1 }^d \mid z_j + w_j \mid^2 \right)^{ \frac{1}{2} } \le \left( \sum_{ j = 1}^d ( \mid z_j \mid + \mid w_j \mid )^2 \right)^{ \frac{1}{2} } ####\le \left( \sum_{ j = 1 }^d \mid z_j \mid^2 \right)^{ \frac{1}{2} } + \left( \sum_{ j = 1 }^d \mid w_j \mid^2 \right)^{ \frac{1}{2} }= d(z,0) + d(w,0) ##
My questions are as follows:Question 1

Can someone please explain exactly why we have:## d( z + w , 0 ) = \left( \sum_{ j = 1 }^d \mid z_j + w_j \mid^2 \right)^{ \frac{1}{2} } \le \left( \sum_{ j = 1}^d ( \mid z_j \mid + \mid w_j \mid )^2 \right)^{ \frac{1}{2} } ##How/why does this hold true?
Question 2

Can someone please explain exactly why we have: ## \left( \sum_{ j = 1}^d ( \mid z_j \mid + \mid w_j \mid )^2 \right)^{ \frac{1}{2} } \le \left( \sum_{ j = 1 }^d \mid z_j \mid^2 \right)^{ \frac{1}{2} } + \left( \sum_{ j = 1 }^d \mid w_j \mid^2 \right)^{ \frac{1}{2} }= d(z,0) + d(w,0) ##How/why does this hold true?
Help will be appreciated ...

Peter========================================================================================Relevant to the above post is Proposition 11.2.3 and Corollary 11.1.4 ... so I am providing both ... as follows:
Garling - Proposition 11.1.3 and Corollary 11.1.4 ... .png

Hope the above scanned text helps readers understand the post ...

Peter
 

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What do you know about the relation between ##|a+b|## and ##|a|+|b|\,##?
And for the second question: square it and try to prove it by induction.
 
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Math Amateur said:
Question 1

Can someone please explain exactly why we have:## d( z + w , 0 ) = \left( \sum_{ j = 1 }^d \mid z_j + w_j \mid^2 \right)^{ \frac{1}{2} } \le \left( \sum_{ j = 1}^d ( \mid z_j \mid + \mid w_j \mid )^2 \right)^{ \frac{1}{2} } ##How/why does this hold true?
It is sufficient to prove that, for any ##j##,
$$ \mid z_j + w_j \mid^2 \le ( \mid z_j \mid + \mid w_j \mid )^2 $$
which is equivalent to
$$ \mid z_j + w_j \mid \le \mid z_j \mid + \mid w_j \mid $$

We can prove that by cases, as is often best with absolute values. Because things are squared, there are only two cases that need considering, where the signs of ##z_j## and ##w_j## are the same, and where they are different. Each case is easy to prove.
 
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The second one can be reduced to an instance of the Cauchy-Schwarz inequality by squaring both sides, then expanding the square inside the summation on the LHS, then cancelling terms that occur on both sides.
 
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Thanks Andrew and fresh_42 ...

Appreciate your help as always ...

Hmm ... should have remembered that for ##z_1, z_2 \in \mathbb{C}## we have ##\mid z_1 + z_2 \mid \le \mid z_1 \mid + \mid z_2 \mid## ...

But ... still reflecting on your posts ...

Peter
 
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Thanks Andrew and fresh_42 ...

Appreciate your help as always ...

Hmm ... should have remembers that for ##z_1, z_2 \in \mathbb{C}## we have ##\mid z_1 + z_2 \mid \le \mid z_1 \mid + \mid z_2 \mid## ...

But ... still reflecting on your posts ...

Peter
fresh_42, Andrew

Just a thought regarding Question 2 ... Garling suggests we use the previous Corollary (which is Corollary 11.1.4) ... but how do we use Corollary 11.1.4 to answer Question 2 ... ...

Peter
 
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fresh_42, Andrew

Just a thought regarding Question 2 ... Garling suggests we use the previous Corollary (which is Corollary 11.1.4) ... but how do we use Corollary 11.1.4 to answer Question 2 ... ...

Peter
I only see that it gives you the equations for the ##d(0,a)## terms. The inequalities are the triangle inequality for question 1 and squaring the second should give you the one for question 2 by the help of Cauchy-Schwarz as @andrewkirk mentioned. It might be a little work to actually prove it, but it's a good exercise (you may assume Cauchy-Schwarz as given, as the Wiki link contains a proof):
$$
\left( \sum_{ j = 1}^n ( \mid z_j \mid + \mid w_j \mid )^2 \right)^{ \frac{1}{2} } \le \left( \sum_{ j = 1 }^n \mid z_j \mid^2 \right)^{ \frac{1}{2} } + \left( \sum_{ j = 1 }^n \mid w_j \mid^2 \right)^{ \frac{1}{2} }
$$
Try it for ##n=2,3## and you should see how it works.
 
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Hi fresh_42, Andrew ...

... taking your advice regarding Question 2 ...

We have to show that ... :##\left( \sum_{ j = 1}^d ( \mid z_j \mid + \mid w_j \mid )^2 \right)^{ \frac{1}{2} } \le \left( \sum_{ j = 1 }^d \mid z_j \mid^2 \right)^{ \frac{1}{2} } + \left( \sum_{ j = 1 }^d \mid w_j \mid^2 \right)^{ \frac{1}{2} }## ... ... ... ... ... (1)Squaring both sides of (1) we get ...

##\sum_{ j = 1}^d ( \mid z_j \mid + \mid w_j \mid )^2 = \sum_{ j = 1}^d \mid z_j \mid^2 + \sum_{ j = 1}^d \mid w_j \mid^2 + 2 \left( \sum_{ j = 1 }^d \mid z_j \mid^2 \right)^{ \frac{1}{2} } \left( \sum_{ j = 1 }^d \mid w_j \mid^2 \right)^{ \frac{1}{2} }## ... ... ... ... ... (2)Now ... expanding the LHS of (2) we get

##\sum_{ j = 1}^d ( \mid z_j \mid + \mid w_j \mid )^2 = \sum_{ j = 1}^d \mid z_j \mid^2 + 2 \sum_{ j = 1}^d \mid z_j \mid \mid w_j \mid + \sum_{ j = 1}^d \mid w_j \mid^2## ... ... ... ... ... (3)Substituting (3) into (2) we get ...:

##\sum_{ j = 1}^d \mid z_j \mid^2 + 2 \sum_{ j = 1}^d \mid z_j \mid \mid w_j \mid + \sum_{ j = 1}^d \mid w_j \mid^2 \ \le \ \sum_{ j = 1}^d \mid z_j \mid^2 + \sum_{ j = 1}^d \mid w_j \mid^2 + 2 \left( \sum_{ j = 1 }^d \mid z_j \mid^2 \right)^{ \frac{1}{2} } \left( \sum_{ j = 1 }^d \mid w_j \mid^2 \right)^{ \frac{1}{2} }####\Longrightarrow \ \ \sum_{ j = 1}^d \mid z_j \mid \mid w_j \mid \ \le \ \left( \sum_{ j = 1 }^d \mid z_j \mid^2 \right)^{ \frac{1}{2} } \left( \sum_{ j = 1 }^d \mid w_j \mid^2 \right)^{ \frac{1}{2} }## ...

... BUT ... this is just Cauchy's Inequality! ... QED ...Is the above correct ... ?

Peter
 
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Yes, that's correct. Well done.
 
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FWIW, note that question 2 really is triangle inequality as well.

Consider two vectors ##\mathbf a## and ##\mathbf x##, where ##\mathbf a## has the magnitude of the components of ##\mathbf z## and ##\mathbf x## has the magnitude of the components of ##\mathbf w##

(alternatively work directly with ##\mathbf z## and ##\mathbf w## and assume WLOG that components are real non-negative)

##
\left( \sum_{ j = 1}^d ( \mid z_j \mid + \mid w_j \mid )^2 \right)^{ \frac{1}{2} } =
\big \Vert \mathbf a + \mathbf x\big \Vert_2 \leq \big \Vert \mathbf a \big \Vert_2 +\big \Vert \mathbf x \big \Vert_2 = \left( \sum_{ j = 1 }^d \mid z_j \mid^2 \right)^{ \frac{1}{2} } + \left( \sum_{ j = 1 }^d \mid w_j \mid^2 \right)^{ \frac{1}{2} }##

by triangle inequality.
 
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