The student's acceptance or rejection of 0.999 =1

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The discussion centers on the mathematical equality 0.999... = 1, addressing student misconceptions regarding infinity and its implications in mathematics. Participants argue that students often perceive 0.999... as a finite number of nines rather than an infinite series, leading to confusion. The conversation highlights the necessity of teaching concepts like convergence and limits to clarify these misunderstandings. Furthermore, it emphasizes that mathematical constructs do not need to correspond to physical reality, as demonstrated by the historical context of non-Euclidean geometry.

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coolul007 said:
The point that I try to make is that a limit is NOT equality. A limit is a number that will not be reached and will not go beyond, because one can always add an iteration to the sequence. The fact that limits have been used so much to achieve success, doesn't mean that they are EQUAL. We also treat pi and e as if they were not limits, but numbers, nice habit, but not accurate.

Completely and utterly wrong. Each sentence is wrong. coolul007 you need to go back and study limits again, from the very beginning.
 
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coolul007 said:
A limit is a number that will not be reached and will not go beyond, because one can always add an iteration to the sequence.
I think that you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what a limit actually means, based on what you are saying above, particularly the part about "that will not be reached".

There is a big difference between saying an = L and ## \lim_{n \to \infty} a_n = L##, and you seem to not be getting that difference.
 
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coolul007 said:
The point that I try to make is that a limit is NOT equality. A limit is a number that will not be reached and will not go beyond, because one can always add an iteration to the sequence. The fact that limits have been used so much to achieve success, doesn't mean that they are EQUAL. We also treat pi and e as if they were not limits, but numbers, nice habit, but not accurate.

There is little point in continuing this discussion. I do understand that you think that 0.999... is not equal to 1. I even understand why you think that. The problem is that you seem to be missing quite some basic knowledge about real numbers. Without this knowledge, I think it would be impossible to fully grasp the 1=0.9999... situation.

So, if you're truly interested in understanding the equality 1=0.9999..., then I can only suggest you to start studying limits and real numbers. Any good analysis book should cover these things very well. So please, do yourself a favor and try to study these things from the very beginning.

I'll keep this thread open to see if we can get further discussion. But if people keep commenting without taking the effort of studying limits and real numbers, then we will be forced to lock.
 

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