Thermodynamics: Conceptual Question

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The discussion centers on the relationship between the number of microscopic states in a thermodynamic system and its entropy, as defined by the equation S = k*ln(w), where S is entropy, k is the Boltzmann constant, and w is the number of microstates. When the number of microstates is doubled, the entropy of the system increases by a factor of ln(2), which is less than 2. The inconsistency observed in the tests conducted by participants arises from using small numbers for microstates, which does not accurately reflect the problem's premise of a large number of microstates.

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1.Problem: A thermodynamic system has a large number of possible microscopic states. If you double the number of possible microscopic states, what happens to the entropy of the system?

it decreases
it remains the same
it increases, but by a factor less than 2
it increases by a factor greater than 2
it increases by a factor of 2
it increases, but not enough information is given to decide by what factor

2.Equations: S = k*ln(w), where s is entropy, k is the Boltzmann constant, and w is the # of microstates
3.Attempt: I did a couple tests with the equation, subbing in values of microstates. I developed an inconsistency, with it doubling by a factor of two with small numbers, and less than two with larger numbers. So I'm pretty sure the entropy increases, I just don't know by how much. Any help on explaining this to me would be appreciated.
 
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3.Attempt: I did a couple tests with the equation, subbing in values of microstates. I developed an inconsistency, with it doubling by a factor of two with small numbers, and less than two with larger numbers. So I'm pretty sure the entropy increases, I just don't know by how much. Any help on explaining this to me would be appreciated.
Why bother using small numbers for the microstates? The problem clearly states that the system has a large number of microstates.
 

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