News They finally caught Roman Polanski

  • Thread starter Thread starter gravenewworld
  • Start date Start date
Click For Summary
The discussion centers on whether Roman Polanski should face jail time for drug-induced statutory rape of a 13-year-old girl, given his plea bargain and subsequent flight from the U.S. Many express concern over the leniency of his plea deal and the implications of his celebrity status in evading justice. There is debate about the differences in legal definitions of rape between the U.S. and Europe, with some arguing that Polanski's actions should still warrant punishment regardless of local laws. The complexities of extradition laws and the potential for Polanski to spend more time fighting extradition than serving a sentence are also highlighted. Ultimately, the consensus is that he must confront the legal consequences of his actions.
  • #91
i would think the biggest national interest of the swiss would be their banking industry, the level of discrete service their customers have come to expect, and the sort of legal precedents and perceptions that could be set by the swiss detaining arriving customers that the US has taken an interest in.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
  • #92
Borg said:
And, now he's free again.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100712/ap_on_en_mo/roman_polanski"
Very disappointing.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
  • #93
mheslep said:
Sometimes yes, sometimes no...
None of those had the forethought to just move to a different country.

...though Polanski probably has a lot more pull overseas than they do.
 
  • #94
mheslep said:
Sometimes yes, sometimes no.

Those people are famous, not popular
 
  • #95
Office_Shredder said:
Those people are famous, not popular
NFL QB Vick? Winona Ryder? They're as popular as Polanski, I'd guess.
 
  • #96
mheslep said:
NFL QB Vick? Winona Ryder? They're as popular as Polanski, I'd guess.

I don't know much about Ryder, but after the allegations came out nobody liked Vick. That's kind of a side point though, my comment was mostly tongue-in-cheek
 
  • #97
Office_Shredder said:
I don't know much about Ryder, but after the allegations came out nobody liked Vick. That's kind of a side point though, my comment was mostly tongue-in-cheek
How could one like someone who fights dogs.

A child rapist on the other hand.:rolleyes:
 
  • #98
Well look at it this way, if Lindsay divulged her drinking habits 15 years from now instead of while actively using them we would heap sympathy on her and some would buy her book.

If Michael Vic had been accused of fighting dogs 5 years after he retired from football with 2 superbowl rings, he would make a tear filled apology for his wrongdoings toward animals and make a donation to an Animal rights group or start a foundation and then still make it in the hall of fame.

Speculating about careeer success asside we often look less harshly on things if they happened in the past to a celebrity.
(Mheslep I know what you meant :smile:)
 
  • #99
Pattonias said:
Well look at it this way, if Lindsay divulged her drinking habits 15 years from now instead of while actively using them we would heap sympathy on her and some would buy her book.

If Michael Vic had been accused of fighting dogs 5 years after he retired from football with 2 superbowl rings, he would make a tear filled apology for his wrongdoings toward animals and make a donation to an Animal rights group or start a foundation and then still make it in the hall of fame.

Speculating about careeer success asside we often look less harshly on things if they happened in the past to a celebrity.
(Mheslep I know what you meant :smile:)
These are not accusations that happened 5-15 years after the crime was committed (they happened the day after), your comparisons are completely irrelevant unless you are possibly arguing that if someone escapes before they go to jail and spend 10-15 years abroad society should forgive and forget .

people who might agree with you
James J. Bulger
Osama Bin Laden

people who have forgiven their perpetrators despite no monetary compensation
http://www.wsbt.com/news/local/44321787.html
http://www.wbir.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=105968Regardless there are crimes that are forgive and forgotten by society hence statute of limitations

murder isn't one of these
anal rape of a drugged 13 year old is not one of them
 
Last edited by a moderator:
  • #100
j93 said:
anal rape of a drugged 13 year old is not one of them

Are you trying to argue that Polanski is not popular, or that there is not a large portion of society that has forgiven him?
 
  • #101
j93 said:
These are not accusations that happened 5-15 years after the crime was committed (they happened the day after), your comparisons are completely irrelevant unless you are possibly arguing that if someone escapes before they go to jail and spend 10-15 years abroad society should forgive and forget .

people who might agree with you
James J. Bulger
Osama Bin Laden

people who have forgiven their perpetrators despite no monetary compensation
http://www.wsbt.com/news/local/44321787.html
http://www.wbir.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=105968


Regardless there are crimes that are forgive and forgotten by society hence statute of limitations

murder isn't one of these
anal rape of a drugged 13 year old is not one of them

Let me get this straight...
You are arguing that I am arguing that WE should forgive and forget BECAUSE he escaped for 5-15 years. I said nothing of the sort. Please reread both my posts. I do like your argument that IF I WAS arguing this that I am in the same category as James J. Bulger and Osama Bin Laden. You forgot to associate me with Adolf Hitler...

Please read all the posts. I was making a statement in regards to society as a whole. Not my personal feelings. I most certaintly was not trying to play advocate to Polanski.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
  • #102
Why are they protecting this guy? Does extradition cost them a lot of money or something? All they have to do is send him back. How hard is that?
 
  • #103
Pattonias said:
Let me get this straight...
You are arguing that I am arguing that WE should forgive and forget BECAUSE he escaped for 5-15 years. I said nothing of the sort. Please reread both my posts. I do like your argument that IF I WAS arguing this that I am in the same category as James J. Bulger and Osama Bin Laden. You forgot to associate me with Adolf Hitler...

Please read all the posts. I was making a statement in regards to society as a whole. Not my personal feelings. I most certaintly was not trying to play advocate to Polanski.

Well from reading your posts there is either the original interpretation or your posts just pointed out that people tend not to view crimes equally as bad if they are not discovered until years after. If this is really the right interpretation even though it is true then how is that relevant (just as relevant as the sky being blue or the atom contains protons)when in this case it was discovered the day after. Trying to compare apples to apples instead of apples to steak. It was a choice between interpreting your posts as a random generalism or a wrong generally held but relevant belief. I gave you the benefit of the doubt.
Pattonias said:
I do like your argument that IF I WAS arguing this that I am in the same category as James J. Bulger and Osama Bin Laden. You forgot to associate me with Adolf Hitler...
Adolf Hitler was killed before being convicted of anything that wouldn't be an apple to apple comparison. The two examples are the most obvious examples of criminals who have been abroad after being convicted.
 
  • #104
leroyjenkens said:
Why are they protecting this guy? Does extradition cost them a lot of money or something? All they have to do is send him back. How hard is that?

To extradite someone you have to usually prove in your courts that it would serve justice as your laws see it to send the person to the other country. Things like unjuust sentences for the crime committed or possible political influence in the trial are amongst a number of examples of how an extradition attempt can fail
 
  • #105
leroyjenkens said:
Why are they protecting this guy? Does extradition cost them a lot of money or something? All they have to do is send him back. How hard is that?

This is a case where the US bungled a critical communication and the Swiss (not known for patience in these proceedings) did as their laws require.
 
  • #106
j93 said:
How could one like someone who fights dogs.

A child rapist on the other hand.:rolleyes:

Children and dogs; both helpless, both being warped or killed by the actions of a more powerful entity. I see a lot of similarities which lead to similar hatred; I suppose it's a matter of whether you're a bigger fan of puppies or kids. I think the people involved in both enterprises are sick and heartless.
 
  • #107
Ran across this today. :-p

[PLAIN]http://imgsrv.gocomics.com/dim/?fh=01030fc1af206922f498cbeb3762a898
 
Last edited by a moderator:
  • #108
Borg said:
Ran across this today. :-p

[PLAIN]http://imgsrv.gocomics.com/dim/?fh=01030fc1af206922f498cbeb3762a898[/QUOTE]

Sad, but true.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
  • #109
I also saw a political cartoon that showed a bunch of bail-jumping rapists applying for political asylum in Switzerland.
 
  • #110
nismaratwork said:
Sad, but true.

What's ironic is that the comic was originally released on http://www.gocomics.com/tomthedancingbug/2009/10/31/" .
 
Last edited by a moderator:
  • #111
Borg said:
What's ironic is that the comic was originally released on http://www.gocomics.com/tomthedancingbug/2009/10/31/" .

Well, it's good to know that in our pantheon of crimes, sex with underage girls you drug is considered passe. :rolleyes: Sometimes I wonder what's wrong with us all, then other times I know and I need a cup of tea.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
  • #112
nismaratwork said:
Well, it's good to know that in our pantheon of crimes, sex with underage girls you drug is considered passe. :rolleyes: Sometimes I wonder what's wrong with us all, then other times I know and I need a cup of tea.

My god, what kind of tea are you drinking?
That must be one hell of a blend.
 
  • #113
Pattonias said:
My god, what kind of tea are you drinking?
That must be one hell of a blend.

Loose-leaf, Darjeeling. Alas, it does nothing! ;)
 

Similar threads

R. I. P. Kris Kristofferson, dead at 88
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
819
Who was Sponsian? Roman Emperor?
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
Police officer caught copying in law examination
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
1K
Why Age-Related Memory Issues Can Be So Oddly Specific?
  • · Replies 14 ·
Replies
14
Views
4K
Anybody following (or followed) Jack Ryan (2018)?
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
268
Calculating Heat Exchange: A Z80 Program with Real Weather Data
  • · Replies 24 ·
Replies
24
Views
2K
B Elastic collision - should final velocities be asymmetric?
  • · Replies 17 ·
Replies
17
Views
2K
News What's Happening Behind the Scenes at WWF?
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
News Dubai rape case Norwegian woman 'free to go'
  • · Replies 25 ·
Replies
25
Views
9K
Aethelstan, King of the Anglo Saxons, first English King
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
358