Thinking of a lower bound for a function

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The discussion revolves around finding a lower bound for the function defined as ##f(\lambda,\beta,x)=1-e^{-\frac{\lambda}{\beta}\left(1-e^{-\beta x}\right)##, which is used in integration contexts. Participants explore alternative functions that could serve as lower bounds and discuss the implications of various mathematical approximations and inequalities.

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  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks a non-zero function that is smaller than ##f## for integration purposes.
  • Another participant discusses the relationship between making ##f## smaller and manipulating the arguments of the exponential functions involved.
  • A proposed lower bound is ##g(x)=(1-e^{-\frac{\lambda}{\beta}})\cdot\min(\frac{1}{e},1-e^{-\beta x})##, which is suggested as a viable option.
  • Further, a participant claims to have found a better bound: ##f(\lambda,\beta,x)>(1-e^{-\frac{\lambda}{\beta}})(1-e^{-\beta x})##.
  • There is a discussion about the inequality $$1-q^r > (1-q)r$$ for ##0
  • One participant notes that the derived inequality relates to Bernoulli's inequality, suggesting a connection to established mathematical principles.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on potential lower bounds and inequalities, with no consensus reached on a single solution or approach. The discussion remains open with multiple competing ideas and methods presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific mathematical approximations and inequalities, but the discussion does not resolve the validity of these approaches or their implications for the original function.

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A function ##f:\mathbb{R}^3_+\to[0,1]## defined as ##f(\lambda,\beta,x)=1-e^{-\frac{\lambda}{\beta}\left(1-e^{-\beta x}\right)}## serves a lot of pain under integration.
As this function is used to describe a lower bound, could anyone suggest another non-zero function that would be smaller than ##f##?
 
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Making f smaller <-> making the outer exponential larger <-> making the argument larger <-> making the negative argument smaller <-> making the inner exponential larger
Hmm, bad direction.

You can use approximations like ##e^{-x}<max\left(\frac{1}{e},1-\frac{x}{2}\right)## for example (possible for both exponentials), but I'm not sure if that makes calculations easier.
 
Having one exponential is perfectly acceptable, it's the ##\exp(...\exp(...))## bit that's causing the integration problems.
It seems that ##g(x)=(1-e^{-\frac{\lambda}{\beta}})\cdot\min(\frac{1}{e},1-e^{-\beta x})## is a good enough lower bound. Thank you.

EDIT: Just found an even better bound: ##f(\lambda,\beta,x)>(1-e^{-\frac{\lambda}{\beta}})(1-e^{-\beta x})##.
 
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This is equivalent to $$1-q^r > (1-q)r$$ for 0<r,q<1. I don't find a counterexample, but I wonder why this is true (and how to show it).

(##q=\exp(-\frac \lambda \beta)## and ##r=1-\exp(-\beta x)##)
 
Ah nice. It needs some re-writing, but then it is really just Bernoulli's inequality. Thanks.
 

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