Third order differential equation

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This discussion focuses on the transition from second-order to third-order differential equations, specifically using the function notation $$ y' = f(x,y) $$ and its derivatives. The key equations derived include $$ y'' = f_{x}(x,y) + f_{y}(x,y)y' $$ and $$ y''' = f_{xx} + 2ff_{xy} + f_{yy}f^{2} + f_{x}f_{y} + ff_{y}^{2} $$, emphasizing the application of the product rule in differentiation. Participants highlight the importance of understanding partial derivatives and the total derivative concept to navigate these equations effectively.

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Hi all, I need to understand these differential equations specially moving from the second order to the third order because i couldn't understand how they got to the result, what was exactly the principle:

$$ y'=f(x,y) $$

$$ y''=\frac{df}{dx}(x,y(x)) = f_{x}(x,y) + f_{y}(x,y)y' = f_{x}(x,y) + f_{y}(x,y)f(x,y) $$

$$ y'''=f_{xx}+2ff_{xy}+f_{yy}f^{2}+f_{x}f_{y}+ff_{y}^{2} $$

where $$ f_{x} $$ is the partial derivation of x and so for the similar other quantities.
please help me with it, thank you.
 
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use the same principles you used for going from first order to second order. You will need to use product rule, because ##y''## contains ##f_yf## which is a product of two functions. But it is not much more complicated than going from first order to second order.

hint: for any function ##g(x,y)## you have: ##g'=g_x+g_y y'## (where ##g'## means total derivative with respect to x).
 
$$ y''' = f_{xx} + f_{xy} y' + f ( f_{yx} + f_{yy} f) + f_{y} (f_{x} + f_{y} f) $$

which leads to the final result.
 
yep. looks good!
 

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