This Object ALWAYS Spins Counter-Clockwise, why?

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The discussion centers around the phenomenon of a rattleback, an object that consistently spins counter-clockwise regardless of the initial direction of spin. Participants explore the mechanics behind this behavior, referencing historical analyses and seeking further clarification on the object's characteristics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the rattleback as a long, thin plastic toy with a hull-shaped base, which exhibits counter-clockwise spinning after initial clockwise motion.
  • Another participant questions the initial claim, seeking clarification on the object's behavior and requesting more details about its nature and origin.
  • References are made to historical analyses of the rattleback phenomenon, including works by Hermann Bondi and Mont Hubbard from the mid-1980s.
  • A later post highlights the omission of Thomas R. Kane's contributions to the understanding of rattlebacks, noting his earlier work in 1982.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express curiosity and share information about the rattleback, but there is no consensus on the underlying mechanics or reasons for its behavior. Questions remain about the specifics of the object's design and the interpretations of its motion.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the object's properties and the conditions under which it operates are not fully explored. The discussion references multiple analyses without resolving which interpretations are most accurate.

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Hey guys,

I've read these forums a ton over the years and found everything I needed merely by searching. But alas, the day has come where I've needed to create an account to help me with a problem.

I have to determine why this object ALWAYS spins counter-clockwise. Whether you spin it clockwise, tap it, push it - it doesn't matter... pretty bizarre.

Here are some picture and appreciate the help:

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jaridwarren said:
Hey guys,

I've read these forums a ton over the years and found everything I needed merely by searching. But alas, the day has come where I've needed to create an account to help me with a problem.

I have to determine why this object ALWAYS spins counter-clockwise. Whether you spin it clockwise, tap it, push it - it doesn't matter... pretty bizarre.

Here are some picture and appreciate the help:

7976896810_c19c1bdb93_m.jpg

7976894921_21da23579e_m.jpg

What you said kind of doesn't make sense. When you spin it clockwise it spins counterclockwise?

And can you give more details about what it is? Where did you get it?
 
See this article: The Amazing Rattleback!

In Wales, it is called a rebellious celt. To us, it's the rattleback. "It" is a long, thin plastic toy with a base shaped like the hull of a boat. When you spin it one way, it turns a few times before the ends start to rattle up and down. The more it wobbles, the slower it rotates - until it stops spinning altogether. Finally, it starts to spin in the opposite direction. What could possibly cause this?

The first attempt to analyze rattlebacks was around a century ago. In the mid-1980s, two detailed mathematical analyses were done: one by Hermann Bondi (then Master of Churchill College, Cambridge) and the other by Mont Hubbard (Professor of Mechanical Engineering at the University of California, Davis).
 
In the mid-1980s, two detailed mathematical analyses were done: one by Hermann Bondi (then Master of Churchill College, Cambridge) and the other by Mont Hubbard (Professor of Mechanical Engineering at the University of California, Davis).

The author of that page missed Thomas R. Kane, the author of modern dynamics theory ("Kane's method"). He and David Levinsion published "Realistic Mathemaical Modeling of the Rattleback" in 1982. This paper preceded both Hubbard's and Bondi's papers.
 
Thanks for the leads guys!
 

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