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This picture first made me laugh then think

  1. Aug 22, 2009 #1
    http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/3503/philosoraptor7.png [Broken]

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  2. jcsd
  3. Aug 22, 2009 #2
    It's the Philosoraptor.
  4. Aug 22, 2009 #3
    Though strictly speaking, that is a picture of a Deinonychus!
  5. Aug 22, 2009 #4
    I see that if the world were deterministic then there could be no free will. I don't see why a probabalistic world prevents free will. Can you explain?
  6. Aug 22, 2009 #5
    It doesn't...proof: "www.ams.org/notices/200902/rtx090200226p.pdf"[/URL]
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  7. Aug 22, 2009 #6

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    Is "free will" exclusive from "predetermination"? If so, and if probabilistic behavior preclude a deterministic outcome, then yes.

    Edit: Seems that's what Jimmy just said.

    Either way, you could argue that free will is an illusion.
  8. Aug 22, 2009 #7
    It also made me think, maybe dinosaurs disappeared after finding out the answer to this question.
  9. Aug 22, 2009 #8
    Why? You're going to have to define free will before you make that assertion. Also, as a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compatibilism_and_incompatibilism" [Broken], I probably already reject your assertion.

    This thread is headed for the Philosophy forums.
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  10. Aug 22, 2009 #9
    You are contributing to that.
    Glad to hear you hold your own beliefs, but that's not even philosophy. Just belief.
  11. Aug 22, 2009 #10
    Well, there is a physics explanation (which I linked), but apparently nobody cares about that.
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    http://www.reformergent.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/jesus_and_dinosaurs_52.jpg [Broken]
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    It disturbs the hell out of me that this is from a child's coloring book. Considering what other lies and dirty tactics creationists use, though, I guess I can't complain much.
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    That's some really good coloring though... I like how the artist added a halo to Jesus.
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    Hence why I said it.

    Do you know what philosophy is?

  16. Aug 22, 2009 #15

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    I don't think it's very rational to make a snap judgment of the source of the image based off one's prejudice against a group of people. Better to do a little searching first.

    It appears to be a satirical piece by artist Derek Chatwood.

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    I don't think a kid colored it though. A kid wouldn't have dribbled coffee all over the page.
  18. Aug 22, 2009 #17

    Chi Meson

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    Who needs an actual answer to the question?
  19. Aug 22, 2009 #18
    "The love of knowledge/wisdom/science" as in φιλοσοφία or "philo" and "sophia".
    My pick would be :
    google 2 : the rational investigation of questions about existence and knowledge and ethics
    which you decided to hide
  20. Aug 22, 2009 #19
    No, I skipped 2 and quoted the definitions of philosophy which directly had the keyword 'belief' in them. If not posting a definition is "hiding" that definition, then you hid results 4 to infinity from me.

    EDIT: Further, even if I was hiding a definition, I gave you two other perfectly valid ones. You don't have to like them, but by them and every other definition of philosophy within this context compatibilism is a philosophy.
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  21. Aug 22, 2009 #20


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    Definition of philosophy - "a search for a general understanding of values and reality by chiefly speculative rather than observational means"

    Merriam Webster online

    Couldn't have said it better myself.
  22. Aug 22, 2009 #21
    I'll bet you could if you tried.
  23. Aug 22, 2009 #22
    I love most of the socially awkward penguins

    http://seriouslulz.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/socially_awkward_penguin_2.jpg [Broken]
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  24. Aug 22, 2009 #23
    The two other definitions provided by wordnetweb.princeton.edu are (IMHO) not suited to describe what the "philosophy" subforum is about. You first claimed I do not know what philosophy means. I claim that the forum rules make it clear that the subforum "philosophy" is not about belief.

    Besides, I merely stick to etymology.
  25. Aug 22, 2009 #24
    I knew it. I got an inkling from one of your other posts but this seals the deal.

    Funny also that I was just typing up a post about anon's possible involvement in ObamaJoker before coming to this thread.
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