Thoughts on Jackson Pollock and Modern Art

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The discussion centers on Jackson Pollock's innovative approach to art, emphasizing his technique of dripping and splattering paint as a method to explore the medium itself rather than create representational images. Pollock's work is seen as a response to the restrictive artistic norms of his time, showcasing a unique creativity that challenged conventional aesthetics. Participants debate the psychological implications of his art, suggesting it reflects a rebellious spirit and a celebration of chaos. The conversation also touches on the broader context of male artists and their motivations within the art world, with some arguing against generalizations about their intentions. Ultimately, Pollock's paintings are recognized for their intricate visual appeal and the complex decisions involved in their creation.
  • #91
zoobyshoe said:
Please, Astronuc. How much harsher can you get than calling something "bull sh!t"? It violates the PF guideleines against profanity.
If you had bothered to read my comment, I was saying that being able to tell what percentage of spatters and drippings were random was BS as far as I'm concerned. I wasn't referring to Pollack or his work, but to the comment about some study. I deleted my remark if it offends you so much, but if you go back and look at my post, you'll see you misinterpreted it.

Turbo called Pollock "crap". That's harsh.
And to a lot of people, that is a common opinion of his work. People have a right to their opinion. Now if they were saying you were cr@p for liking it, that would be different.

Moonbear grossly insulted my thoughts on Pollock by sequestering them under her editorial comment "Art is like peeing on a fly". This violates the PF injunction against "snide remarks or phrases that appear to be an attempt to "put down" another member..." She has gathered all my well thought out remarks on Pollock and put them in a separate thread upon which she comments: "Art is like peeing on a fly."
She did no such thing. You had started discussing art in a thread about peeing in a toilet. She thought the discussion merited being moved out of that thread and created a new thread to continue your discussion. She was not directing anything at you personally, it was actually a compliment. You seem to be mistaking everything as an attack on you and that's not true. I apologized for being harsh with my opinions. Did you apologize to Moonbear?
 
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  • #92
cyrusabdollahi said:
By your definition, those are your hobbies. Those are not art. Art has a purpose and context. These have no purpose, message if you will, or context for society to interpret. Its just something you do because you enjoy it. Nothing wrong with it, but I would not put that in the realm of art.

Cyrus, I apologize for my rudeness. I was pretty frustrated because you did not bother to address a single salient point in my post, including the requirement that art somehow connect the creator and the viewer.

As a musician, I performed many hundreds of times, and hosted open-mic jams so that non-professionals would have opportunities to perform and hone their skills. You can call it a hobby, if you want, but it's surely art to me, even when I was being well-paid to do it. If nothing is communicated between the artist and the person viewing/hearing the performance/painting, then there is minimal art content in my opinion. By the way, you did not tell me if you thought Barnett Newman's paintings were art or not. Google Image is just a click away.
 
  • #93
Evo said:
She did no such thing. You had started discussing art in a thread about peeing in a toilet. She thought the discussion merited being moved out of that thread and created a new thread to continue your discussion. She was not directing anything at you personally, it was actually a compliment. You seem to be mistaking everything as an attack on you and that's not true. I apologized for being harsh with my opinions. Did you apologize to Moonbear?
Well, I haven't apologized, but I'll give her a compliment instead:

Moonbear's posts are like peeing on a fly.
 
  • #94
zoobyshoe said:
Moonbear grossly insulted my thoughts on Pollock by sequestering them under her editorial comment "Art is like peeing on a fly". This violates the PF injunction against "snide remarks or phrases that appear to be an attempt to "put down" another member..." She has gathered all my well thought out remarks on Pollock and put them in a separate thread upon which she comments: "Art is like peeing on a fly."

Since you won't drop this...the title I had given the thread was based entirely on the thread it came from...one about urinal splatter! That you seek to attribute some deeper, hidden, emotional meaning to that title perhaps is appropriate to the rest of the discussion in this thread anyway, but I'll leave that for others to decide for themselves. And I clearly indicated right in the beginning of the thread here that the original title was one I took credit for, and was not your choice so there would be no mistaking that.

Critique of Pollock's work is not an insult to yourself unless you are Pollock. People are free to critique works in the public realm.
 
  • #95
Time out!
 

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