Thoughts on Space/Time and Gravity

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the nature of space/time and gravity, exploring personal interpretations and theoretical connections between these concepts. Participants engage in a dialogue about the implications of gravity on the flow of time and the expansion of space, as well as the relationship between personal theories and established scientific frameworks like General Relativity.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that space/time behaves similarly to water, proposing that the expansion of space/time is the only phenomenon faster than light, and connects this to the forward movement of time.
  • The same participant argues that gravity represents a restriction on the movement of space/time, claiming that time ticks faster in empty space compared to areas with matter, such as Earth.
  • They further elaborate that near a black hole, the effects of gravity on time become pronounced, suggesting that time nearly stops in such extreme conditions.
  • Another participant reminds that personal theories are not permitted in the forum and encourages adherence to established theories like General Relativity, implying that the original post may not align with accepted observations.
  • A subsequent participant questions which specific observations their theory does not match, indicating a desire for clarification on the critique of their ideas.
  • Another reply emphasizes that the discussion should focus on interpretations of spacetime rather than personal theories, noting that the concept of spacetime "flowing" does not align with General Relativity's description of curvature and geometry.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the interpretation of spacetime and gravity, with some advocating for established theories while others present personal interpretations. There is no consensus on the validity of the personal theory presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of distinguishing between personal interpretations and established scientific theories, particularly in relation to General Relativity. The discussion reflects varying levels of understanding and acceptance of these concepts.

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Some of my thoughts on space theory. I see many similarities between space/time and water. Just how they both move and flow. Only one thing is faster than light and that is the expansion of space/time it self. We have discovered that space is expanding faster and faster. This is the reason why time is always moving forward since the the two are connected. Einstein stated that gravity is matters curvature of space/time. To go beyond that, I think that gravity is matters restriction of space/times movement. In normal empty space time ticks faster than here on Earth. I think matter is sort of pinching space/time, making it expand/tick a little slower. At gravities extreme a black hole, you can see this effect much clearer since they say if you park a spaceship next to a black hole its clock would almost come to a stop. So this must mean space is almost coming to a stop.
 
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Please be aware that PF rules do not allow personal theories. We would be happy to explain current published theories such as General Relativity, but we cannot discuss you own personal one. (Which doesn't quite match up with observations and accepted theories) If you would like to learn more about it then head to the 3 subforums on Astronomy, Astrophysics, and Cosmology and read the FAQ's there or do a search for other related items. There is also the General Relativity subforum as well.
 
oh sorry. I saw the general relativity section but thought I could post in this section also since it was general physics. Just curious what part doesn't match up with observations?
 
Manosapien said:
oh sorry. I saw the general relativity section but thought I could post in this section also since it was general physics. Just curious what part doesn't match up with observations?

I guess it isn't really about matching the observations, but more about the interpretations of what spacetime is and how it works. Saying it "flows" and "moves" and such doesn't really match up with what General Relativity says. It's hard to explain as I'm not an expert on GR. Spacetime experiences "curvature" as many call it, but what that's really talking about is how the geometry of it changes I believe. I'd suggest looking into the more technical aspects of GR and if you have specific questions then feel free to ask. Just try to refrain from posting your personal "interpretations" of what spacetime is doing and you should be fine.
 

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