Three-Degree-Of-Freedom Spring System

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The discussion revolves around a three-degree-of-freedom spring system involving three masses connected by springs on a frictionless plane. The original poster describes the setup and derives a matrix system using Newton's second law, leading to a characteristic equation related to the system's frequencies.

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  • The original poster attempts to derive the characteristic equation for the system's frequencies and questions the validity of their results, particularly regarding the number of roots obtained.
  • Some participants question the formulation of the mass matrix and suggest corrections to the original poster's approach.
  • Others discuss the nature of the roots, indicating that one root is zero and relates to the equal displacement of all masses.
  • There is a clarification on the terminology used for the frequencies, distinguishing between normal modes and overtones.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance on the formulation of the mass matrix and the interpretation of the roots. There is an exploration of different normal modes and their corresponding displacements, indicating a productive direction in understanding the system's behavior.

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Participants note potential errors in the original poster's calculations and assumptions, particularly regarding the mass relationships and the resulting characteristic equation. The discussion also highlights the complexity of the system's dynamics and the implications of the derived frequencies.

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Three masses, m1 , m2, m3, on a frictionless, horizontal plane, connected by two springs, both with a spring constant k.

The system is set in motion by displacing the middle mass, m2, a distance a to the right, whilst holding the end masses, m1 and m2, in equilibrium.

Also should be noted that m1 = m3 and m2 = βm1.

Summing the forces on each mass and using Newton's second law I have obtained the following matrix system:

$$
\begin{bmatrix}
βm & 0 & 0\\0 & m & 0\\0& 0& βm\\
\end{bmatrix}
\begin{bmatrix}
\ddot x_{1}\\\ddot x_{2}\\\ddot x_{3}\\
\end{bmatrix}
+
\begin{bmatrix}
k & -k & 0\\-k & 2k & -k\\0& -k& k\\
\end{bmatrix}
\begin{bmatrix}
x_{1}\\x_{2}\\x_{3}\\
\end{bmatrix}
=
\begin{bmatrix}
0\\0\\0\\
\end{bmatrix}
$$

which is $$\underline{M}\underline{\ddot X} + \underline{k}\underline{X}=0$$

After assuming a solution of the form:
$$ \underline{X}={U}[A_{}cos(ω_{}t)+B_{}sin(ω_{}t)]$$

it can be shown that
$$\underline{\ddot X}=-ω^{2}\underline{X}$$
and then that:
$$( \underline{k}-ω^{2} \underline{M}) \underline{X}=0$$
and for there to be a non-trivial solution,
$$det( \underline{k}-ω^{2} \underline{M})=0$$

here I have a problem, which might not even be a problem, but the characteristic equation I get only has two positive roots, where I am asked for three. Is there a) something obviously wrong with my method;b) a potential error in my calculations;c) is it possible for there to be only two frequencies?
 
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Your original equation is certainly wrong. You said that ## m_1 = m_3 ## and ## m_2 = \beta m_1 ##. Then your M matrix should be ## \text{diag} \{ m, \beta m, m \} ##.

Apart from that, it is possible to have roots with multiplicity greater than 1. You should still get different normal mode vectors.
 
One of the roots is zero: It corresponds to equal displacement of all the three masses.

ehild
 
voko said:
Your original equation is certainly wrong. You said that ## m_1 = m_3 ## and ## m_2 = \beta m_1 ##. Then your M matrix should be ## \text{diag} \{ m, \beta m, m \} ##.
Whoops.

ehild said:
One of the roots is zero: It corresponds to equal displacement of all the three masses.

ehild

erm, so my roots are:

$$0, \sqrt\frac{k}m, \sqrt\frac{k(2+β)}{βm}$$

making 0(?) the fundamental frequency, then the square root of k/m the first overtone and the square root of k(2+β)/m the second overtone, each with a corresponding mode shape vector?
 
They are not overtones. They are the angular frequencies of normal modes. All normal modes mean different displacements of the masses with respect to each other. You get these normal mode vectors by plugging back the frequencies into the original equation.

(One normal mode is pure translation, all bodies have the same displacement. The other one is a symmetric vibration, m1 and m3 move in opposite directions. The third one is asymmetric vibration, m1 and m3 move in the same direction, and m2 moves in the opposite direction)

The motion of the system with the given initial condition is a linear combination of the three normal modes.

ehild
 

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