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Homework Statement
Find the geometric configuration of the points a, b, and c if (see equation below)
Relevant Equations
(b-a)/(c-a)=(a-c)/(b-c)
##arg((b-a)/(c-a))## is an angle between ##ab## and ##ac##.
##arg((a-c)/(b-c))## is an angle between ##ca## and ##cb##.
For them to be equal, ##b## has to be equidistant from ##a## and ##c##, i.e. ##|b-a|=|b-c|##.

Then the equation for distances becomes, ##|b-a|/|c-a|=|c-a|/|b-a|##.
Thus, ##|c-a|=|b-a|=|b-c|##.

My answer, equilateral triangle.

Are there other possibilities or constrains?
 
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Write [tex] (a- b)(b - c) = (a - c)^2 = (a - b + b - c)^2.[/tex] If [itex]a - b = A[/itex] and [itex]b - c = B[/itex] then [tex]\begin{split}<br /> AB &= (A + B)^2 \\<br /> 0 &= A^2 + AB + B^2 \end{split}[/tex] which has solution [tex] A = e^{\pm i \pi/3} B[/tex] so that the angle between [itex]A[/itex] and [itex]B[/itex] is [itex]\frac{\pi}3[/itex] and [itex]|A| = |B|[/itex].

However, since [itex]a = b + A[/itex] and [itex]c = b - B[/itex] the angle between [itex]a - b[/itex] and [itex]c - b[/itex] is actually [itex]\frac{2\pi}3[/itex], which is not equilateral. Rather, it is isoceles with angles [itex]\frac{\pi}6[/itex], [itex]\frac{\pi}6[/itex] and [itex]\frac{2\pi}3[/itex] and sides [itex]|A|[/itex], [itex]|A|[/itex] and [itex]\sqrt{3}|A|[/itex].
 
pasmith said:
Write [tex] (a- b)(b - c) = (a - c)^2 = (a - b + b - c)^2.[/tex] If [itex]a - b = A[/itex] and [itex]b - c = B[/itex] then [tex]\begin{split}<br /> AB &= (A + B)^2 \\<br /> 0 &= A^2 + AB + B^2 \end{split}[/tex] which has solution [tex] A = e^{\pm i \pi/3} B[/tex] so that the angle between [itex]A[/itex] and [itex]B[/itex] is [itex]\frac{\pi}3[/itex] and [itex]|A| = |B|[/itex].

However, since [itex]a = b + A[/itex] and [itex]c = b - B[/itex] the angle between [itex]a - b[/itex] and [itex]c - b[/itex] is actually [itex]\frac{2\pi}3[/itex], which is not equilateral. Rather, it is isoceles with angles [itex]\frac{\pi}6[/itex], [itex]\frac{\pi}6[/itex] and [itex]\frac{2\pi}3[/itex] and sides [itex]|A|[/itex], [itex]|A|[/itex] and [itex]\sqrt{3}|A|[/itex].
If ##|a - b| = |b-c| = |A|## and ##|a-c|=\sqrt{3}|A|##, then the first equation, $$(a- b)(b - c) = (a - c)^2$$ makes $$|A||A|=3|A|^2$$ -?
 
pasmith said:
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[tex] (a- b)(b - c) = (a - c)^2 = (a - b + b - c)^2.[/tex] If [itex]a - b = A[/itex] and [itex]b - c = B[/itex] then [tex]\begin{split}<br /> AB &= (A + B)^2 \\<br /> 0 &= A^2 + AB + B^2 \end{split}[/tex] which has solution [tex] A = e^{\pm i \pi/3} B[/tex] so that the angle between [itex]A[/itex] and [itex]B[/itex] is [itex]\frac{\pi}3[/itex] and [itex]|A| = |B|[/itex].
Isn't the solution to the quadratic ##A = B\left(\frac{-1}2 \pm \frac {\sqrt 3} 2 i\right)##? Or in polar form ##A = Be^{\pm i \frac{2\pi} 3}##?

Also, I suspect that the triangle is isosceles, of which equilateral is a special case, but I haven't worked out a counterexample.
 
Mark44 said:
I suspect that the triangle is isosceles, of which equilateral is a special case
As ##|A|=|B|##, the first equation becomes ##|A|^2=|C|^2##. Thus ##|C|=|A|##, i.e., the triangle is equilateral.
 
pasmith said:
Yes, it should be [itex]A = Be^{\pm 2\pi i/3}[/itex], making the triangle equilateral: the interior angle at [itex]b[/itex] is [itex]\frac{\pi}3[/itex] and [itex]|a - b| = |c - b|[/itex].
Thank you for the clear derivation.