Thrust calculation for hovercraft

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the power and thrust needed for a hovercraft design project, focusing on the mechanical engineering aspects of propulsion, resistance, and performance metrics. Participants explore various methods for determining forces, power requirements, and the impact of aerodynamic resistance.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Homework-related
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests determining the friction of the hovercraft when it hovers and mentions using a pulley system to measure it, indicating that this force must be overcome to maintain motion.
  • Another participant emphasizes the need to calculate the force required to reach a certain velocity, using the formula F = m*a, where 'a' is the acceleration.
  • A participant questions the units of power and proposes that power could also be expressed as pressure multiplied by the volume of air, indicating a potential alternative perspective on power calculation.
  • One participant clarifies that power is measured in watts (J/s) and discusses variations of the power equation, suggesting that thrust can be calculated using pressure and volume flow rate.
  • Another participant asks for correlations to avoid complex drag calculations, indicating uncertainty about the appropriate methods to use.
  • A later reply mentions references to fluid mechanics literature and suggests using software like Fluent or Ansys for estimating drag through finite element analysis (FEA).

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity and complexity of considering aerodynamic resistance in their calculations. While some suggest ignoring it to simplify the process, others propose using correlations or software to estimate drag, indicating a lack of consensus on this aspect.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various methods and equations without fully resolving the assumptions behind them, such as the conditions under which aerodynamic resistance can be neglected or the specific correlations to use for drag calculations.

Who May Find This Useful

Mechanical engineering students, designers of hovercraft or similar vehicles, and individuals interested in propulsion and fluid dynamics may find this discussion relevant.

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hello to u all out there (sorry for the misspelling, english is not my native language)

i'm mechanical engineering student and I'm working on my final project which is design of a light hovercraft (acv).

i was wondering how do i calculate the power needed to make it go forward.??

do i need to determin the acceleration that i expect??

how do i derermine the aerodynamic resistens?

do u know w good link??

thanks ahead

yab
 
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you need to determine the friction of the unit when it hovers. When i made it, i used the classical experiment:-p of determining the friction using a cord & putting weight on the other side of the pulley:smile:.

this is the force you need to overcome. Use power = force*velocity to calculate the power at any velocity. note that the process is only approximate.

Forget about aerodynamic resistance, it will only complicate things, else use some correlations to calculate drag.
 
hi again, i see now i left a part of your question. the force you calculated just above is to sustain the motion(non accelerating unit). If you need to reach some velocity in some time t(depends if the project have some objective), calculate the force by using F = m*a(inertia force).
 
thank. the eq. power=f*velocity

what r the units of this "power"

isnt it supose to b power=pressure*volume of air?
 
use SI units, power will be in J/s ot watts.

First power = pressure * volume flow rate, second is that there are a lot of variations of this equation, you can easily see it using dimensional analysis or using a differential element.

Third point is that if the objective of your query is to determine the thrust you require from the propeller, calculate the thrust usint the above equation & see some sites like thishttp://www.sharmamodelaero.com/propellers.htm. they ll have some graphs of thrust vs speed & type of motor required.
 
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"Forget about aerodynamic resistance, it will only complicate things, else use some to calculate drag. "

which correlations do i use to avoid drag calculations??
 
i remember that there are some in fluid mechanics, by fox & mcdonald.

Can you use fluent? or ansys? You can estimate the drag using FEA.
 

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