Calculating lift force of a motorised hovercraft

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the lift force for a motorized hovercraft, focusing on the equations related to thrust propulsion and the requirements for electric motors to achieve sufficient lift. Participants explore various aspects of lift calculations, motor specifications, and power requirements.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents an equation for thrust propulsion but expresses uncertainty about calculating additional velocity from motor RPM, questioning whether converting RPM to linear velocity is appropriate.
  • Another participant points out the distinction between thrust propulsion and lift force, suggesting the original poster may need to refer to a different thread for lift force calculations.
  • A participant describes their hovercraft specifications, including size, weight, and the power requirements of their current motor, seeking advice on converting to electric motors.
  • One response calculates the power requirement for the hovercraft, stating that 1 horsepower equals 0.746 kW, leading to a need for 112 kW of power for lift, while noting that additional power is necessary for forward motion.
  • Another participant mentions the importance of comparing electric motor RPM to the original engine RPM and discusses the potential need for a gear reducer if the RPMs differ significantly.
  • A later reply indicates a plan to remove hydraulic systems and use separate electric motors for lift and thrust, suggesting this may reduce overall power requirements.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the appropriate equations for calculating lift versus thrust and the implications for motor power requirements. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to calculate lift force and the specifications for electric motors.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations include the lack of consensus on the correct equations for lift versus thrust, the dependency on specific motor characteristics, and the unresolved nature of how to accurately convert motor RPM to the required linear velocity for lift calculations.

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Hello, I need help regarding calculating the lift force for a hovercraft. I found an equations online on thrust propulsion.

Equation →
T= π/4 x D^2 x (v + Δv/2) x ρ x Δv

D- diameter of propeller
v- velocity of incoming flow
Δv- additional velocity, accelerated by propeller
ρ- density of air (1.225 kg/m^3)

I know that the (v) would be zero initially as the hovercraft is not moving. The problem I have right now is that I do not know how to calculate the additional velocity from a given motor as it Only gives the rpm and not the velocity. If I were to convert rpm to rad/s then to m/s. This would only calculate the velocity of a point mass instead which is not the linear velocity I need. Or am I wrong? Thanks
 
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Does this page help you understand better your equation?

Also, you are talking about «calculating the lift force» but you give an equation for thrust propulsion. You might be interested in this thread for lift force.
 
Hi, I'm trying to work out what size electric motor is required for my hovercraft

I have a 6.5m x 3m hovercraft that is run by hydralics and a 3.9 Rover V8 motor which requires 150 horse power to lift it's 1200kg mass.
I am wanting to convert the motors over to electric and a diesel generator but not sure on what size Kw motor to install.
The lift fan has 5 blades at a diameter of 850mm and runs at 3000rpm

any help would be appreciated

Cheers
 
1 horsepower is 0.746 kW, so you need 112 kW of power no matter the type of motor. The equation in this post can give you an estimation of what power you need just to lift the hovercraft. You still need additional power to push it forward though.

Electric motors are generally rated by their continuous power but they can reach much much higher peak rating. Check the specs carefully. The 150 hp of your V8 motor is the peak rating. The continuous power should at least greater than the power needed to lift the hovercraft.

Your electric motor needs to have a similar rpm compare to your engine or you will have to install a gear reducer to get a comparable rpm range. Gear ratio doesn't affect the power output.
 
Thanks for your reply.

I was intending to remove the hydrolics altogether and install 3 separate electric motors... one for lift and two for the thrust therefore I believe I shall require less power due to the motor not having to operate the hydrolic pumps and motors and moving the fluid around

Cheers
 

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