Time crystals: They require energy added back into them?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of time crystals, particularly whether they require energy input to maintain their oscillations. Participants explore the nature of time crystals, their energy states, and the implications of periodic driving in their operation.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that time crystals are in a lowest energy state and do not require energy, while others propose that they may need energy input to sustain their oscillations over time.
  • One participant notes that oscillating crystals can maintain their motion with minimal energy, depending on their mounting.
  • Another participant references the need for periodic driving to create time crystals, implying that energy is indeed used in this process.
  • Concerns are raised about the reliability of the original poster's sources, with some participants questioning the clarity and validity of the claims made.
  • There is a mention of a YouTube video as a source for the claim about energy requirements, but its reliability is challenged by other participants.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the energy requirements of time crystals, with no consensus reached on whether they need energy input or not. The discussion remains unresolved, with multiple competing views presented.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the ambiguity in the original poster's claims and the potential confusion between different types of crystals, which may affect the understanding of the discussion.

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I was initially under the impression that time crystals are in lowest energy state and neither gain or lose energy. But other sources suggested they might require a bump in energy after a while to keep going?
 
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What are "time crystals" ?
It takes energy to get a crystal oscillating.
Depending on how they are mounted, crystals can oscillate with a very high efficiency.
That oscillation can be maintained with very little added energy.
 
Baluncore said:
What are "time crystals" ?
Time crystals. Not that I know the answer to the question, but I do know how to google :wink:
 
The wikipedia page linked by Filip says, in the introductory paragraph, that time crystals have been realized in periodically driven systems. I don't know where OP gets "bump in energy," but if it takes periodic driving to create a time crystal, then energy is at least being used to maintain the driving system.
 
The OP has a history of poorly sourced/referenced posts. In this case,
LightningInAJar said:
I was initially under the impression
LightningInAJar said:
But other sources suggested
Are of course impossible to follow up on.

The OP in this case is so badly presented that I can't tell if he's really talking about "time crystals" or "crystals in an oscillator used to measure time."
 
The question cannot be important. Since that posting, the OP has not logged back in.

It seems the answer is both yes and no, and no and yes, depending on the application of, and the meaning of time crystal.
 
Baluncore said:
ince that posting, the OP has not logged back in.
The OP has a history of starting threads and not participating.

Looks like he fooled us again.
 
He/she earned an “Ignore” from me.
 
Filip Larsen said:
Time crystals. Not that I know the answer to the question, but I do know how to google :wink:
Yes, this is the time crystal I am referring to. And the only reference I can offer to needing to add energy to the system is from a YouTube video which I'm told isn't a good source, so I didn't include it.
 
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So you knew that your source was unreliable, tried to hide it and post anyway?

Why don't you find a reliable source? Then we can discuss it intelligently.
 
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LightningInAJar said:
the only reference I can offer to needing to add energy to the system is from a YouTube video which I'm told isn't a good source, so I didn't include it
In other words, you don't have a valid reference as a basis for discussion. Thread closed.
 

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