Time for Car 1 and Car 2 Collision: Solving the Puzzle

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The discussion revolves around determining the time of collision between two cars, where car 1 is initially traveling at 31 m/s and can decelerate at -1.8 m/s², while car 2 is moving at a constant speed of 6 m/s. The problem involves calculating the time until the two cars collide, given that car 1 starts braking when it is 30 meters behind car 2.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the time of collision using kinematic equations but finds discrepancies in their results. They question whether they need to consider relative velocity and if it should be averaged over the distance.

Discussion Status

Participants are clarifying the problem statement, particularly the initial distance between the cars. There is an ongoing exploration of how to model the positions of both cars to determine the collision time accurately.

Contextual Notes

There is a need for clarification on the initial distance between the cars, as well as the conditions under which car 1 begins to brake. The problem setup includes specific constraints regarding the braking distance and speeds of both vehicles.

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Homework Statement



I am trying to find the time a collision occurs of car 1 that is traveling 31m/s and can accelerate at -1.8m/s and car 2 that is traveling at a constant velocity of 6m/s.

Homework Equations



v(final)^2=v(initial)+ 2a(x(final) - x(initial))
v(final) = v(initial) + at
x(final) = x(initial) + v(initial)t + .2at^2

The Attempt at a Solution



I found change in velocity of car 1 over the 30 meter distance.

v(final)^2 = 31^2 - 2(-1.8)(-30) = 28,837
28.837 = 31 + (-1.8)t ...t = 0.996

the distance car 2 traveled over the 0.996s is 5.976m

so adding the distance car 2 traveled plus the distance car 1 is initially from car 2...

v(final)^2 = 31^2 - 2(-1.8)(-35.976) = 28.835
28.835 = 31 + (-1.8)t.....t =1.204s

Which 1.204 seconds turned out to be the wrong answer. Would I have to find the relative velocity between the cars over the 30 meters? Would the relative velocity be the average over the 30m? I am not sure what else to look at.

Thanks for the help!
 
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Can you state the problem exactly as it is given? Specifically, how far apart are the cars initially?
 
Here is the problem: A certain automobile can decelerate at 1.8 m/s^2. Traveling at a constant car 1 = 31m/s, this car comes up behind a car traveling at a constant car 2 = 6m/s. The driver of car 1 applies the brakes until it is just 30m behind the slower car. Call the instant which the brakes are applied t = 0. At what time does the inevitable collision occur?
 
A collision is when their positions are the same. So create two equations, 1 for each car, that model each cars position.
[tex]x=x_o+v_ot-\frac{1}{2}gt^2[/tex]
 

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