High School Time reversibility in quantum mechanics

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The discussion centers on the concept of time reversibility in quantum mechanics, questioning whether reversing a system leads to the same initial state due to the randomness of interactions. It argues that while the unitary evolution of a wave function is time-reversible according to Schrödinger's equation, the act of measurement or probing the system introduces irreversibility. As the system evolves, interactions with probes create a final state that differs from the initial state, suggesting that reversing the process would not recreate the original conditions. The conversation highlights the distinction between the theoretical reversibility of quantum mechanics and the practical implications of measurement. Ultimately, the irreversibility introduced by probing the environment complicates the notion of returning to an identical initial state.
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Hey Everyone,

Question about time reversibility.

In considering the reversibility of a system over an interval of time, shouldn't it be put into consideration, that because all interactions were random, that if one were to somehow "go back in time" or reverse the process, that the initial state would be completely different then what the initial state was before reversing the system?

For example, we start with a system in a box, with some particles in it as some undefined locations and momenta. As time evolves through the box, we probe the environment with particles to see where things were every second or so. At the final state of the system, we have a final state that is different then the initial. Okay cool. But now let's say we were to time reverse the process. If the laws of physics are the same in reversed time, doesn't that mean that all interactions with the probes, as the system advances towards the initial state, be completely random, and thus end up with a different initial state?
 
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The unitary evolution of the wave function of an isolated system according to Schrödinger's equation is time-reversible. However, the reduction of the wave function (collapse, measurement, observation, ...) is not. Thus, we've broken the reversibility when we "probe the environment with particles" - that interaction is thermodynamically irreversible.
 
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Time reversal invariant Hamiltonians must satisfy ##[H,\Theta]=0## where ##\Theta## is time reversal operator. However, in some texts (for example see Many-body Quantum Theory in Condensed Matter Physics an introduction, HENRIK BRUUS and KARSTEN FLENSBERG, Corrected version: 14 January 2016, section 7.1.4) the time reversal invariant condition is introduced as ##H=H^*##. How these two conditions are identical?

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