Time/space symmetry in Dirac Equation

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The discussion centers on the symmetry between time and space in the context of the Dirac equation within relativistic quantum mechanics. Participants explore the implications of treating time as a parameter versus an operator, the structure of the Hilbert space, and the interpretation of wave functions in this framework.

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  • Some participants question whether the time derivative operator \(\frac{\partial}{\partial t}\) can be considered a Hilbert space operator, suggesting that time is treated differently than spatial coordinates in quantum mechanics.
  • Others argue that time is not an observable in quantum theory, citing implications for the Hamiltonian and the existence of stable ground states.
  • A participant clarifies that the Hilbert space associated with the Dirac equation consists of square-integrable functions of spatial coordinates, indicating that time does not have the same status as spatial dimensions.
  • Another participant elaborates on the Lorentz-covariant form of the Dirac equation, discussing how it can be expressed in a way that appears asymmetric between space and time, while still accommodating both relativistic and non-relativistic treatments.
  • Some contributions emphasize that functions of space and time do not constitute a Hilbert space, as they are not square-integrable, and thus \(\frac{\partial}{\partial t}\) cannot be treated as a Hilbert space operator.
  • Participants also discuss the distinction between state evolution in time and the nature of wave functions, noting that the time derivative acts on parametrized curves of states rather than on states themselves.

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Participants express differing views on the treatment of time in quantum mechanics, particularly regarding its status as an operator versus a parameter. There is no consensus on whether \(\frac{\partial}{\partial t}\) can be considered a Hilbert space operator, and the discussion remains unresolved on several points related to the interpretation of the Dirac equation.

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Limitations include the lack of consensus on the interpretation of time in quantum mechanics and the implications for the structure of the Hilbert space. Participants highlight the need for careful consideration of definitions and the mathematical framework involved.

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Is \frac{\partial}{\partial t} an operator on Hilbert space? I'm a little confused about the symmetry between spatial coordinates and time in relativistic QM.

There is a form of the Dirac equation that treats these symmetrically:

i \gamma^\mu \partial_\mu \Psi = m \Psi

However, at least in nonrelativistic QM, time is not treated symmetrically with the spatial coordinates, in that the Hilbert space consists of square-integrable functions of space, not space and time. So in NRQM, \partial_x is a Hilbert-space operator, but \partial_t is not, since the elements of the Hilbert space are not functions of time. Another way of putting the distinction is that t is a parameter, while \hat{x}, \hat{y}, \hat{z} are (Hilbert space) operators.

I'm assuming that the Dirac equation has a similar notion of a Hilbert space that is square-integrable functions of space, so that would mean that despite the symmetry between spatial and time coordinates in the covariant form of the Dirac equation, the meaning of space and time coordinates is different. So I would assume that it's true for the Dirac equation, as well, that t is a parameter, while \hat{x} is an operator? Similarly, \partial_x is a Hilbert space operator, but \partial_t is not?

Can somebody clarify this for me?
 
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No, time is not an observable in QT (neither in relativistic nor in non-relativistic). The reason is simply that otherwise the Hamiltonian would always have the entire real axis as a spectrum, which contradicts the very clear observation that there's a stable ground state. If this weren't the case no stable matter, including us, would exist!

The Dirac equation (as any other relativistic wave equation) has no physically sensible single-particle wave-function interpretation in the sense of "first quantization". Dirac's attempt to interpret it as that automatically lead him to the hole-theoretical formulation of QED, which is equivalent to the now usual QFT formulation but much more cumbersome. The advantage of Fermi over Dirac is that Fermi's sea really exists, while Dirac's is an outdated concept, nowadays substituted by the Feynman-Stueckelberg trick ;-).

In QFT all operators, representing observables, are built from the field operators.
 
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Time is merely a parameter in the standard formulation of QM. The Hilbert space of the Dirac equation is:
## \mathcal{H} = L^2 \left(\mathbb{R}^3, \mathbb{C}^4\right)##. Notice that 3 over there. It should be a 4, but it isn't. When you write the wavefunction as ##\psi (x,y,z,t) ##, the four variables are not really on an equal footing.
 
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This is a terrific question, and one which puzzled me for a long time too! Here's how I stopped losing sleep over it...

Let's start out with the Lorentz-covariant form of the Dirac Equation as you have given it: $$i\gamma^\mu\partial_\mu\Psi(\mathbf {x},t)=mc\Psi(\mathbf {x},t)$$ For clever choices of ##4 \times 4## matrices ##\mathbf{\alpha}=(\alpha_1,\alpha_2,\alpha_3)## and ##\beta## we can rewrite this in the form: $$i\frac {\partial}{\partial t}\Psi(\mathbf {x},t)=(-ic\mathbf {\alpha} \cdot \nabla + \beta mc^2)\Psi(\mathbf {x},t)$$ By defining $$H_0:=-ic\mathbf {\alpha} \cdot \nabla + \beta mc^2$$ we can write this equation in the form $$i\frac {\partial}{\partial t}\Psi(\mathbf {x},t)=H_0\Psi(\mathbf {x},t)$$Whilst this is getting close to the Hilbert Space formulation, we mustn't jump to conclusions because our solutions ##\Psi(\mathbf{x},t)## are functions of space and time instead of functions of space parametrized by time. To get Schrödinger mechanics, we carefully separate out space and time with a scalpel ##\psi## (lower case psi this time!) defined as follows:$$\psi(t):=\Psi(\cdot,t)$$ It turns out that for each time ##t##, ##\psi(t)## is not only a function of ##x##, but is square-integrable with respect to the following Hilbert Space (depending on which way you like your eggs): $$\mathscr{H} := L^2(\mathbb{R})^4\equiv L^2(\mathbb{R}^3,\mathbb{C}^4) \equiv L^2(\mathbb{R}^3) \otimes \mathbb{C}^4$$ Furthermore, since our operator ##H_0## defined above does not depend either explicitly or implicitly on time, it can safely be interpreted as an operator in ##\mathscr{H}##. (I'll leave out some subtleties about the precise domain on which ##H_0## must be defined as this doesn't impact on your question.)

Finally, we can now write $$i\frac {d}{dt}\psi(t)=H_0\psi(t)$$ where, for any instant of time ##t##, ##\psi(t)## is a function on ##\mathbb{R}^3## (into ##\mathbb{C}^4##), and is interpreted as the (spatial) wave function of the electron at time ##t##.

The reason I went through all that is to convince you that it is indeed true that a Lorentz-covariant differential equation can be re-expressed in a form that looks completely asymmetric in space and time. That's why we often use the modifier 'manifestly' to describe equations that are purposely written in a space/time symmetric way.

It is (to me at least) extremely surprising to first find out that the Hilbert Space formalism (which feels so non-relativistic) can accommodate both a relativistic and a non-relativistic treatment of a system, but it turns out to have a compelling explanation. Hilbert Spaces are flexible enough to carry representations of both the Galilean group and the Lorentz-Poincare group (and pretty much any other algebraic invention actually!). Classical state spaces don't have that linear structure.

Another good way to reconcile this state of affairs is to revisit good old Maxwell's Equations. We first learn these equations in a very non-relativistic-looking way by considering E-B fields defined on space but which vary in time. Yet, they can be re-expressed in the form of a simple (coordinate-free) tensor field on Minkowski spacetime. You can't get more manifestly Lorentz-covariant than that; there aren't even any transformations to check!
 
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I realized after posting this response that I left out an important part of the OP's query, which asked whether ##\frac {\partial} {\partial t}## is a Hilbert Space operator.

The answer is definitely no, because the functions ##\Psi(\mathbf{x},t)## do not constitute a Hilbert Space. Specifically, they are not square-integrable (which you can see if you think about what is going on in the time direction).

Actually though, even if ##\Psi(\mathbf{x},t)## was square-integrable, it wouldn't make sense for it to live in the Hilbert Space of states, because being a function of space and time it represents the entire life of the system (in the same way a world line does). And it makes no sense at all to ask how a world-line evolves in time!

But what about the ##\frac {d} {dt}## I introduced in the Schrödinger version of the Dirac Equation? $$i\frac {d}{dt}\psi(t)=H_0\psi(t)$$Nope. Although this time our ##\psi## functions belong to the Hilbert Space, the mathematical object ##\frac {d} {dt}## acts upon is not a state, but rather a parametrized curve of states (and it returns one of these as well): $$\frac {d} {dt} : \psi (t) \mapsto \dot\psi (t)$$ A Hilbert Space observable ##A##, on the other hand, is a (usually linear) map ##A:\mathscr{H}\to\mathscr{H}##.
 
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Thank you for this impressive explanation (impressive to me because it appears to make sense to my humble brain cells) - you posted it 7 years ago and today it answered a question in the afternoon, which came with in the morning
 

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