Time travel in the quantum world

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the concept of time travel in the quantum world, specifically regarding the possibility of individual particles traveling back in time. Participants explore the implications of a statement made by physicist Antonio Zicchichi, which suggests that single particles can move into the past, while also addressing the limitations and interpretations of such claims.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the validity of the claim about particles traveling back in time, suggesting that it may stem from a misunderstanding of Zicchichi's statements.
  • Another participant emphasizes the need for a specific reference to Zicchichi's claims to properly assess their validity.
  • A participant argues that Zicchichi's assertion does not equate to actual time travel, noting that elementary particles do not have a designated path as classical objects do.
  • Some participants express skepticism about informal statements made by scientists in interviews, indicating that these may not accurately reflect established theories.
  • A later reply references Quantum Field Theory (QFT), asserting that particles cannot travel back in time and clarifying that CPT symmetry does not imply time travel.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the interpretation of Zicchichi's claims and whether they imply that time travel for particles is possible. The discussion remains unresolved, with multiple competing views presented.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of a direct reference to Zicchichi's statements, which complicates the assessment of his claims. Additionally, there is uncertainty regarding the translation and interpretation of the original statements.

Arceus
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hi users, I'm a new member of the forum. My question is about time travel in the quantum world. I am aware of the enormous limitations, but my topic is about individual particles and their ability to travel through time, is that possible for them? My question comes from a speech by an important physicist, who states that single particles in the quantum world can go back in time for example in 2012. Obviously there is no talk of paradoxes, and he refers to the Wigner theorem
 
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Arceus said:
My question comes from a speech by an important physicist
Please give a more specific reference.
 
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Arceus said:
I'm a new member of the forum.
Welcome to PF!
 
PeterDonis said:
Welcome to PF!
Hi PeterDonis at this moment I don't have the link of the text, but it concerned an interview made by a newspaper with professor Antonio Zicchichi, maybe I didn't write the name well. This physicist claims that individual particles like an electron, can go back into the past, in my view I believe the professor was referring to quantum foam and therefore to the indeterministic nature of the quantum world. But of course I'm on this forum for more information
 
Arceus said:
at this moment I don't have the link of the text, but it concerned an interview made by a newspaper with professor Antonio Zicchichi
We can't discuss a vague second-hand report of something. We need the actual first-hand reference. If you can't provide one, we will have to close this thread.
 
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Arceus said:
in my view I believe the professor was referring to quantum foam and therefore to the indeterministic nature of the quantum world
Which is not at all the same thing as "time travel is possible", even for individual quantum particles. So either you are misunderstanding what the professor said, or the professor is going way beyond what the actual theory says (which, unfortunately, scientists often do in informal contexts like interviews with newspapers). It's impossible to tell which without an actual reference to what the professor said.
 
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PeterDonis said:
Which is not at all the same thing as "time travel is possible", even for individual quantum particles. So either you are misunderstanding what the professor said, or the professor is going way beyond what the actual theory says (which, unfortunately, scientists often do in informal contexts like interviews with newspapers). It's impossible to tell which without an actual reference to what the professor said.

PeterDonis said:
Which is not at all the same thing as "time travel is possible", even for individual quantum particles. So either you are misunderstanding what the professor said, or the professor is going way beyond what the actual theory says (which, unfortunately, scientists often do in informal contexts like interviews with newspapers). It's impossible to tell which without an actual reference to what the professor said.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.il...-non-per-noi-e-su-dio-vi-dico-che/102801/amp/

this is the link of the article, I do not speak Italian but cob the translator I was able to read what was written, and affirm that single particles can travel in the past in the quantum world. Unfortunately I don't have links in English, but using the translator you can read it. I know that in Italy this professor is very important but I don't know anything else about him.
 
He is just saying that elementary particles do not have a preference for future or past, a designated path from past to future, like classical objects do.
It's easy to confuse with particles somehow going back into past on a poorly translated page.
 
PeterDonis said:
which, unfortunately, scientists often do in informal contexts like interviews with newspapers
+1 yes they do that quite often...
 
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Jarek 31 said:
Let me remind OP's question
Which was already shown, way back in post #8, to be based on a misunderstanding of what the professor referred to actually said.

Jarek 31 said:
So please let us avoid subjective QM interpretations here, and try to answer OP's question from QFT perceptive
The question is already answered: particles can't travel back in time. QFT agrees with this. CPT symmetry is not the same thing as time travel.
 
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The OP's question has been answered. Thread closed.
 

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