Tips on finding LCM in radians?

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The discussion revolves around finding the least common multiple (LCM) of two angles, specifically -5π/3 and π/2, in the context of their representation on the unit circle. Participants explore the implications of these angles and their relationships in terms of radians and degrees.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Some participants question the validity of finding an LCM for angles, suggesting that points on the unit circle do not have an LCM. Others propose converting the angles into a different form to facilitate the calculation.
  • There are attempts to express the angles in terms of common denominators, and some participants discuss the implications of converting between radians and degrees.
  • Questions arise regarding the context of finding the LCM, particularly whether it relates to the periodicity of waves or other mathematical interpretations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations being explored. Some participants have provided insights into the arithmetic involved, while others express confusion about the relevance of the LCM in this context. There is no explicit consensus, but multiple lines of reasoning are being examined.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the potential for confusion arising from the conversion between radians and degrees, as well as the arithmetic operations involved in finding the LCM. The discussion also touches on the broader implications of periodicity in wave functions.

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Homework Statement


Lets say I want to find the LCM of -5π/3 and π/2; Also let's say these points are on the Unit Circle.​

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It's easier to convert to degrees then back to radians but I don't want do that anymore because it's tedious

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Thoughts?
 
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Please explain: in my perception these numbers are not on the unit circle. And points don't have an LCM
 
But if you mean the LCM of ##{180\over \pi}\displaystyle \arg(e^{-i {5 \pi\over 3}}) ## and ##{180\over \pi} \arg(e^{i { \pi\over 2}}) ## then there's light ! You can forget the common factors and look for the LCM of -5/3 and 1/2. I think that's 5 (-5?), so in your lingo ##\pm 5\pi## is the answer :rolleyes: which I am in fact forbiddden to give because of the PF rules and guidelines. Or perhaps more explicitly ##{180\over \pi} \arg(e^{i { \pm 5\pi}}) ## (which still is a tedious conversion...)
But I count on your having found that already in the 'tedious' manner... ?
 
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After a beer, I see something else that escaped me: what is -300 degrees if you want to find an LCM ? Should I replace that with +60 (which in fact is equal to ##
{180\over \pi}\displaystyle \arg(e^{-i {5 \pi\over 3}})\ \ ##) and end up with 180 as LCM ?
 
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I realized that say -(5π/3) is the same as -(10π/6) and (π/2) is the same as (3π/6), now I have a LCM or lowest common multiple. I can now do 3π - 5π/6 = -(2π/6).
 
I was plotting a sine graph at the time.
 
Giu1iano said:
I was plotting a sine graph at the time.
It would help if you were to explain exactly what you were doing and why it came down to finding the LCM of two angles. We would then have a better understanding of what LCM would mean in this context.
Are you trying to find how long before two waves of different wavelengths get back into phase?
 
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I realized that say -(5π/3) is the same as -(10π/6) and (π/2) is the same as (3π/6), now I have a LCM or lowest common multiple. I can now do 3π - 5π/6 = -(2π/6).
No.

Your question really has nothing to do with radians or degrees or anything about angles -- it is a simple question about arithmetic; specifically how to add fractions.

How much is ##3 - \frac 5 6##? According to your work above, it would be ##-\frac 2 6##. Does that even make sense? If you subtract a number that is less than 1 from 3, would you get a negative number?
 
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