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The discussion revolves around the calculation of the volume of NH4Cl solution required to prepare a buffer solution with a specific pH of 9.5, using a given concentration of NH3 and the dissociation constant (Ka) of NH4+. Participants are attempting to apply the Henderson-Hasselbalch equation to solve the problem.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a buffer preparation problem involving NH3 and NH4Cl and seeks assistance in calculating the required volume of NH4Cl to achieve a target pH.
  • Another participant suggests using the Henderson-Hasselbalch equation to find the ratio of concentrations of NH4+ and NH3, noting that dilution calculations can be ignored.
  • A participant expresses confusion about the ratio mentioned and shares their own calculations, which they believe are incorrect.
  • Subsequent posts involve participants discussing the calculation of moles of ammonia and correcting each other's mistakes regarding the concentration used in their calculations.
  • There is a back-and-forth regarding the correct interpretation of the formula and the calculations leading to the volume of NH4Cl needed.
  • Participants clarify the correct number of moles of ammonia and the concentration after dilution, with some expressing uncertainty about their calculations and seeking confirmation from others.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct calculation method initially, with some expressing confusion and correcting each other. However, there is a general agreement that the calculations involve the Henderson-Hasselbalch equation and the need to account for dilution.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the clarity of the calculations presented, particularly regarding the interpretation of concentrations and the application of the Henderson-Hasselbalch equation. Some participants express uncertainty about their calculations and the steps taken.

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This discussion may be useful for students preparing for exams in chemistry, particularly those focusing on buffer solutions and the application of the Henderson-Hasselbalch equation in calculations.

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1. A buffer is prepared by mixing a 100.0ml of a 0.100M NH3 solution with a 0.200M solution of NH4Cl and making the total volume up to 1.000L of water. What is the volume of the NH4Cl solution required to achieve a buffer at pH=9.5
Ka of NH4+ = 5.6x10^-10

The textbook tell me that the answer is 28.1mL, can anyone please help me to figure this out? I've been trying for the past few hours and just about ready to give up!

I'm almost certain you need to use hendersen hasselbach but i cannot get the correct answer.
Thank you :)
 
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HH equation will give a ratio of concentrations of NH3 and NH4+. You are given amount of ammonia and the final volume, so you can easily calculate ammonia concentration in the final solution. Use this number and the ratio to calculate concentration of NH4+ in the final solution, then calculate how much NH4+ in the form of 0.200M solution is needed.

Actually dilution calculations can be ignored, but I am afraid explaining why will just confuse you more.
 
oh ok, thank you for your feedback. is there any chance you would mind showing me the working for the question?
im just a bit confused about which ratio you're talking about, I've completed the question and gotten an answer of 0.2823L which i know isn't right.
 
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Show what you did and how.
 
okay, so i began by finding the moles of ammonia in 1L,
first found moles in 100mL
c=n/v so n=cV
n=0.100M/0.1
= 0.01

then using henderson hasselbach,

pH=pKa+ log (NH4+/NH3)
9.5=9.25+log(NH4+/0.01)
0.25=log(NH4/0.01)
10^-0.25= (NH4/0.01)
NH4= 0.564 x 0.01
n of NH4 = 0.00565

then from moles find volume of NH4 required,
c=n/v
v=n/c
v= 0.00564/0.02M
v= 0.2823L
v= 282.3mL

i know my working isn't right but I'm at a loss about what to do. i have an exam on this on friday so i really appreciate your help.
 
emilj said:
v= 0.00564/0.02M

Why 0.02M?
 
i've just had a look at the question again,

i think I've calcualted the number of moles incorrectly,

moles of ammonia should actually be,
n= 0.1M/1.0L
n=0.1

is that correct?
 
oh that should be 0.2M not 0.02. my mistake
 
so then if i sub that in, so..

0.00564 M/0.2M
=0.0282L, is that then correct?
 
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Looks OK to me, and fits the book answer, doesn't it?
 
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emilj said:
i've just had a look at the question again,

i think I've calcualted the number of moles incorrectly,

moles of ammonia should actually be,
n= 0.1M/1.0L
n=0.1

is that correct?

No.

First, it is C*V, not C/V (actually you wrote it wrong in the original solution as well, but then you calculated right).

Second, in the final solution concentration of ammonia is not 0.1M, it was diluted tenfold, to 0.01M.

Your original calculation (0.1M*0.1L=0.01 moles) was OK.
 
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oh okay thank you very much for your help :) i appreciate it!
 

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