To find the centre of gravity of a lamina

AI Thread Summary
The discussion focuses on determining the center of gravity of a trapezium-shaped lamina and the conditions for it to remain stable when placed vertically. The center of gravity is calculated to be at (7a/9, 4h/9), but the challenge lies in finding the minimum height (h) to prevent toppling. Initial reasoning incorrectly assumed that the trapezium's quadrilateral part was a square, leading to confusion about the tipping point. The correct approach emphasizes that for stability, the center of gravity must remain above the base BC, ensuring that any slight displacement does not cause the lamina to topple. Understanding the balance of moments around point C is crucial for determining the stability conditions of the lamina.
gnits
Messages
137
Reaction score
46
Homework Statement
To find the centre of gravity of a lamina
Relevant Equations
Balancing of moments
Could I please ask for help with the following:

A lamina ABCD is in the form of a trapezium in which DC is parallel to AB, AB = 2a, CD = a and AD = h and the angle BAD is 90 degrees. Find the position of the centre of gravity of the lamina from the edges AD and AB.

The lamina is placed vertically with edge BC on a horizontal plane. Find the minimum value of h for the lamina to remain in this position without toppling in its own vertical plane.

I've done the first part and get the book answers of:

Center of gravity = ( 7a/9, 4h/9)

It's the second part where I am stuck.

Here's a diagram:

trap.png


So I reasoned that the lamina would topple if h (= length AD) were reduced to a width where the centre of gravity were to fall on the line joining A to C, so that when resting on side BC the centre of gravity would then be above C.

Would that be correct?

But this leads to:

Equation of line joining A to C is y = hx/a

So if centre of gravity is on this line then the point (7a/9, 4h/9) should satisfy the equation. But this leads to:

4h/9 = 7a/9 * h/a

and all the values cancel.

Book's answer is a*sqrt(10)/5

Thanks for any help,
Mitch.

EDIT:

Alternative method. Here's a diagram of the rotated shape:
trap2.png


So condition for C.O.G. to be above C is:

(11a/9)*cos(t) + (4h/9)*sin(t) = sqrt(a^2+h^2)

and we know that cos(t) = a/(sqrt(a^2+h^2) and sin(t) = h/sqrt(a^2+h^2)

And this leads to the right answer.

So with my first attempt, what was my mistake of reasoning?

FURTHER EDIT: I think my first method implicitly assumes that the quadrilateral part of the trapezium is a square, which it need not be.
 
Last edited:
Physics news on Phys.org
gnits said:
So I reasoned that the lamina would topple if h (= length AD) were reduced to a width where the centre of gravity were to fall on the line joining A to C, so that when resting on side BC the centre of gravity would then be above C.

Would that be correct?
No. With reference to your 2nd diagram, you can't assume AC is vertical at the critical (tipping) point.

I'll call the centre of gravity 'P' for brevity.

For stability, P must be above the base BC.

If P is slightly to the left of C (i.e. above BC) the weight produces an anticlockwise moment (torque) about C, This will be balanced by a clockwise moment produced by the normal reaction from the ground on BC, giving stability.

But if P is slightly to the right of C (i.e. outside BC) the weight produces a clockwise moment about C - which can't be balanced. So the lamina topples (rotates clockwise about C).

If you consider the traingle PBC, you want P vertically above C so BPC is a right-triangle with ∠BCP = 90º.
 
Thanks very much for you help. Much appreciated.
 
  • Like
Likes jim mcnamara and Steve4Physics
Thread 'Minimum mass of a block'
Here we know that if block B is going to move up or just be at the verge of moving up ##Mg \sin \theta ## will act downwards and maximum static friction will act downwards ## \mu Mg \cos \theta ## Now what im confused by is how will we know " how quickly" block B reaches its maximum static friction value without any numbers, the suggested solution says that when block A is at its maximum extension, then block B will start to move up but with a certain set of values couldn't block A reach...
TL;DR Summary: Find Electric field due to charges between 2 parallel infinite planes using Gauss law at any point Here's the diagram. We have a uniform p (rho) density of charges between 2 infinite planes in the cartesian coordinates system. I used a cube of thickness a that spans from z=-a/2 to z=a/2 as a Gaussian surface, each side of the cube has area A. I know that the field depends only on z since there is translational invariance in x and y directions because the planes are...
Thread 'Calculation of Tensile Forces in Piston-Type Water-Lifting Devices at Elevated Locations'
Figure 1 Overall Structure Diagram Figure 2: Top view of the piston when it is cylindrical A circular opening is created at a height of 5 meters above the water surface. Inside this opening is a sleeve-type piston with a cross-sectional area of 1 square meter. The piston is pulled to the right at a constant speed. The pulling force is(Figure 2): F = ρshg = 1000 × 1 × 5 × 10 = 50,000 N. Figure 3: Modifying the structure to incorporate a fixed internal piston When I modify the piston...

Similar threads

Back
Top