TOEFL or IELTS Certification for University?

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The discussion revolves around the choice between TOEFL and IELTS certifications for university applications, focusing on which test is more widely accepted in various countries and how to select the appropriate test based on individual university requirements and geographical preferences.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that universities in different countries may accept one test over the other, with specific mention of the UK recommending IELTS or Pearson’s Test for Tier 4 visa requirements.
  • One participant notes that TOEFL might be more suitable for those preferring American English and computer-based testing, but questions whether this choice limits university options.
  • Concerns are raised about the recognition of other tests like Oxford's Advanced CAE and Professional CPE, with questions about their global acceptance compared to IELTS and TOEFL.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of selecting a specific country and university before deciding on a test, citing cost and focus as factors in the decision-making process.
  • There are differing opinions on the quality of education in the US versus the UK, with one participant expressing a preference for US schools based on perceived teaching methodologies and economic factors.
  • Some participants recommend checking individual university policies regarding accepted tests, suggesting that this should guide the choice of certification.
  • One participant mentions that if considering European countries, IELTS might be a better option, but emphasizes verifying with the specific school first.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views regarding the choice between TOEFL and IELTS, with no consensus on which test is definitively better. There is agreement that individual university requirements should guide the decision, but opinions vary on the implications of choosing one test over the other.

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Limitations include the variability in university policies regarding accepted tests, the lack of clarity on the recognition of alternative certifications, and the subjective nature of educational quality assessments between countries.

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How should I choose one of them? Is it like universities in some countries accept one and universities in other countries accept the other?
Thanks
 
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Shayan.J said:
How should I choose one of them? Is it like universities in some countries accept one and universities in other countries accept the other?
Thanks

According to one site I found
"If you require a Tier 4 visa for study in the UK, it is recommended that you take IELTS or Pearson’s Test as TOEFL is no longer recognised by the UK Home Office as a Secure English language Test." http://www.i-studentglobal.com/learning-english/ielts-vs-toefl-which-is-better?showall=&limitstart=

Try googling TOEFL vs IELTS which gave me many results. The answer to your question depends on what you expect from the test and in which country do you want to study.
Another option might be Oxford's Advanced CAE or even Professional CPE
 
I searched a bit and it looks like TOEFL is more suitable for me because its based on American English and also is a computer test. But does it mean that by choosing TOEFL I'm losing the chance to apply to some universities?(EDIT:well, aside from the ones in UK!)

And about those two other tests you mentioned, they are British. Are they based on British English? Are they as well-known as IELTS and TOEFL around the world?

And in general, do universities around the world really care that much about which English test the student has passed?
 
If you would want to apply for a school abroad, you'd better pick one country only. Because
1. Taking both exams also costs you some money.
2. Focusing on one school and trying for it makes you look more decisive or determined.
3. You can leave the US and fly to UK for higher education if you want later.
Choose a US school. You can view many online lectures from both countries and compare. I don't mean the UK professors are worse, only much less informative and they don't seem to employ better teaching methodology in their lectures or training experiments.
The US economy is also much better developed. They also have a tremendously growing system of communication or media. I take it as always that you have a voice and power only if you have $$$ and good methods to maintain, communicate as well as to control them.
 
Each university sets its own policy on what tests it will accept.
 
So it seems I should first choose the universities I want to apply to, and then choose which test I should take.

Pepper Mint said:
If you would want to apply for a school abroad, you'd better pick one country only. Because
1. Taking both exams also costs you some money.
2. Focusing on one school and trying for it makes you look more decisive or determined.
3. You can leave the US and fly to UK for higher education if you want later.
Choose a US school. You can view many online lectures from both countries and compare. I don't mean the UK professors are worse, only much less informative and they don't seem to employ better teaching methodology in their lectures or training experiments.
The US economy is also much better developed. They also have a tremendously growing system of communication or media. I take it as always that you have a voice and power only if you have $$$ and good methods to maintain, communicate as well as to control them.
For me its not UK or US. I want to consider other European countries too. If I can find English programs in non-English speaking countries, then I won't hesitate to apply.
 
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Shayan.J said:
I searched a bit and it looks like TOEFL is more suitable for me because its based on American English and also is a computer test. But does it mean that by choosing TOEFL I'm losing the chance to apply to some universities?(EDIT:well, aside from the ones in UK!)

And about those two other tests you mentioned, they are British. Are they based on British English? Are they as well-known as IELTS and TOEFL around the world?

And in general, do universities around the world really care that much about which English test the student has passed?
What I would do in the first place is choose the uni where you want to go and search their website for info about this. If you can't find it don't be afraid to contact their student services or English department.
The two Oxford texts I mentioned are accepted in my area (central Europe). I guess that Oxford is one of the golden standards in British English.
However, if you want to go to the USA, TOEFL might be more suitable.
Anyway, the first step is to get info from your preferred school.
 
Shayan.J said:
So it seems I should first choose the universities I want to apply to, and then choose which test I should take.For me its not UK or US. I want to consider other European countries too. If I can find English programs in non-English speaking countries, then I won't hesitate to apply.
Contact them and attach the photo of your ID if you can. Then use the English form of your name they suggest. I would save and print whole mail conversation and bring it to the test in case that the examiner has any issues.

If you want to go to Europe than IELTS is probably a better option. But check the info on school website first anyway to be sure.
 
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