Tom Throws a Fair Dice: Finding Probabilities

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The problem involves calculating probabilities related to a game where Tom throws a fair dice twice. Points are awarded based on specific outcomes: 1 point for each '6' thrown, 2 points if the sum of the two numbers is prime, and no points for other outcomes. The questions focus on determining the probabilities of scoring 1 point, 2 points, and at least 2 points.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the total possible outcomes when throwing the dice and how to correctly count the outcomes that yield specific point totals. There is an emphasis on identifying which combinations of dice rolls lead to scoring 1 point versus 2 points.

Discussion Status

Some participants express confusion regarding the correct counting of outcomes for scoring 1 point, with one participant suggesting that their count aligns with the original poster's reasoning. There is a recognition of differing interpretations of the problem, and some participants question the validity of the provided answer in the book.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that there are 36 possible outcomes when throwing the dice twice, and they are exploring how to categorize these outcomes based on the scoring rules. There is also mention of potential errors in the provided answers, indicating a need for careful analysis of the outcomes.

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Homework Statement



The question below, i already have the answer. but I can't work it out. Can anyone help?

Questions (Original)

In a game, Tom throws a fair dice twice. 1 point is awarded for each '6' thrown, 2 points are awarded if the sum of the two numbers thrown is prime, and no points are awarded for other outcomes. Find the probabilities that

(a) Tom gets 1 point in the game.
(b) Tom gets 2 points in the game.
(c) Tom gets at least 2 points in the game.


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The Attempt at a Solution



(a) There are total 36 possible results for a fair dice to be thrown twice. For each '6' thrown 1 point is awarded so there are (1,6) (2,6) (3,6) (4,6) (5,6) (6,6) and (6,1) (6,2) (6,3) (6,4) (6,5), but (6,6) is not counted because it gives two points, and (1,6) and (5,6) are also left out because they give prime number on sum.

So the desired outcomes should be (2,6)(3,6)(4,6)(6,4)(6,3)(6,2), then 6/36 = 1/6 but the answer is wrong. I am not going to say the answer but I just don't understand.

Please also explain (b) and (c) if possible. Thank you.
 
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kenny1999 said:

Homework Statement



The question below, i already have the answer. but I can't work it out. Can anyone help?

Questions (Original)

In a game, Tom throws a fair dice twice. 1 point is awarded for each '6' thrown, 2 points are awarded if the sum of the two numbers thrown is prime, and no points are awarded for other outcomes. Find the probabilities that

(a) Tom gets 1 point in the game.
(b) Tom gets 2 points in the game.
(c) Tom gets at least 2 points in the game.


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



(a) There are total 36 possible results for a fair dice to be thrown twice. For each '6' thrown 1 point is awarded so there are (1,6) (2,6) (3,6) (4,6) (5,6) (6,6) and (6,1) (6,2) (6,3) (6,4) (6,5), but (6,6) is not counted because it gives two points, and (1,6) and (5,6) are also left out because they give prime number on sum.

So the desired outcomes should be (2,6)(3,6)(4,6)(6,4)(6,3)(6,2), then 6/36 = 1/6 but the answer is wrong. I am not going to say the answer but I just don't understand.

Please also explain (b) and (c) if possible. Thank you.

My answer for (a) is different from yours, but that is because I was careful to count things correctly. Of course, for (b) and (c) I would just find and list all the relevant outcomes that have the desired point scores. That is what you should do as well.

RGV
 
Ray Vickson said:
My answer for (a) is different from yours, but that is because I was careful to count things correctly. Of course, for (b) and (c) I would just find and list all the relevant outcomes that have the desired point scores. That is what you should do as well.

RGV

why not 1/6?

(2,6) (3,6) (4,6) (6,4) (6,3) (6,2) are all counted as 1 point because sum of their numbers doesn't give a prime number. (1,6) (5,6) (6,5) as well as (6,1) are not counted because they get 3 points.

I don't think there are any other outcomes that would give 1 point only in addition to my count. So why not 1/6? Please tell me.
 
kenny1999 said:
why not 1/6?

(2,6) (3,6) (4,6) (6,4) (6,3) (6,2) are all counted as 1 point because sum of their numbers doesn't give a prime number. (1,6) (5,6) (6,5) as well as (6,1) are not counted because they get 3 points.

I don't think there are any other outcomes that would give 1 point only in addition to my count. So why not 1/6? Please tell me.

Sorry, I mis-read the question. Your analysis of (a) is correct, so I suppose the answer in the book is wrong. That happens a lot, by the way.

RGV
 

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