Tongue weight capability of 2x3x.125 steel tube at 21"?

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The discussion revolves around the structural integrity and load-bearing capacity of a half-rack for weight lifting, specifically focusing on the tongue weight capability of 2x3x.125 steel tubes overhung by 21 inches. Participants explore both static weight support and the effects of dynamic loads from potential drops.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the static weight capacity of the overhung steel tubes and their ability to withstand a drop from 3 feet.
  • Another participant suggests that the weakest link in the structure is the base, indicating that it may fail by bending before the overhung elements do.
  • A follow-up question asks for information needed to determine the failure point of the base, maintaining the same overhang and tube dimensions.
  • A comment from a mentor highlights that safety considerations extend beyond just the bending strength of the top pieces, mentioning factors like the bending strength of the bottom legs, buckling strength of vertical columns, strap alignment, and impact load considerations.
  • The mentor also notes that impact loads can be significantly higher than static loads and that accurate calculations are complicated due to unknown variables.
  • A suggestion is made to conduct a drop test with safety precautions in place, emphasizing the importance of testing the structure under controlled conditions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the factors affecting the structural integrity of the rack, with no consensus reached on the specific load capacities or failure points. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact calculations and safety measures needed.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of specific calculations for the failure points, dependence on various structural factors, and the complexity of accurately assessing dynamic loads versus static loads.

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Hello everyone. I'm building myself a half-rack for weight lifting that included 2 overhung support beams above from which to hang a safety strap incase of a failed lift. They are made from 2x3x.125 steel tube (they're Oriented with the 3" vertically). The tube are overhung by 21". How much weight could they support statically, but also what could they sustain from say a 3ft drop? Edit: image added for reference.
 

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Welcome!
The weakest link is the base.
It will fail by bending prior to the element you are asking about has a chance to fail.
 
Lnewqban said:
Welcome!
The weakest link is the base.
It will fail by bending prior to the element you are asking about has a chance to fail.
Ah, I hadn't considered that. What info would you need to figure the fail point of the base? Same overhang, 2x3x.125 tube, 75" between top and base. Realistically till be more than strong enough for anything I could lift but I'm curious what the math says.
 
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Kawana87 said:
Ah, I hadn't considered that. What info would you need to figure the fail point of the base? Same overhang, 2x3x.125 tube, 75" between top and base. Realistically till be more than strong enough for anything I could lift but I'm curious what the math says.

After a Mentor discussion, the thread will remain closed for safety and forum liability reasons. Here is one of the comments from that Mentor discussion:

There is more to making a safe rack than just the bending strength of the top pieces. There is also the bending strength of the bottom legs, the buckling strength of the vertical columns, the strap alignment, strap connection, stability, weld strength, and impact load. The impact load is several times higher than the static load, and cannot be calculated accurately because the strap spring constant is both unknown and nonlinear.

We cannot do a full engineering analysis for you, but can make this suggestion: Build it, then drop test the heaviest weight the longest possible distance. Do the drop test by having two people pick up the weight so that both people are standing outside the safety rack. That way, if it fails, it will collapse between the people so nobody will get hurt.
 
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